You are clearly wrong. Sea shepherd has NEVER bodily injured anyone, not a single person.

I think the people on this discussion using the word/or trying to define the word TERRORIST are out of their minds. A continuation of the obvious ploy we've been sold, about the "Badguys" who are out to get us. Make you want to hide under the bed and hope that Grampy or the spooks in the Biz. will make it go away.

A "TERRORIST" by definition, creates mayhem and scares the population into submission (no wiki cites needed, we have recent history to refer to).

You may have been taught in grade-school that there were certain people, say, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine. Paul Revere, who would, by today's standards, be classified as terrorists. BUT THEY WEREN'T THEN, And that's what's wrong. It's not that freedom and democracy which they set-up has changed.... It's US.

If a thing is bald-faced wrong---then it's WRONG. That's the story here. We liberals have got to start repeating that message again and again. Cigarettes and Dolphin meat made the cut; why can't a simple issue like the destruction of a species count?

Wow, that was a rant huh? s'cuse me.

CDR

Can anyone dig up exactly what health plan our congressional representatives enjoy? And what would the same coverage cost an average American?

It really should be a simple percentage of income.

And why don't any of the shouters; pro or con, mention how much money each congressman accepts from the Health-Care lobby?

Should have been the first questions that brave young woman asked.

Steele want us to "teach" them. OK let's go.

BTW; framing this as an issue strictly for the elderly is corporate trickery. Plenty of young people suffer catrostophic disease and injury too. Leads to a life of destitution, bankruptsy, and failure. Shame on these bought-out shills!

It's not a "Town-Hall" meeting (meant to conjure images of the founding fathers) if all questions need to be pre-submitted a month in advance; and dissent gets tazed and arrested.

I'm so disgusted. If you can handle it.... read Taibbi's article in the Sept 3 edition of "Rolling Stone". The Dems are just as corrupt, it's sickening. Whoops, no pun intended.

A. Your link does not work.

B. By your twisted reasoning; every speech, ever made, in any forum, applauded by anyone, results in blanket-guilt by association.

What is "apropos" is the title of "Knucle-Dragger of the Year" to you. Congrats.

... and handbags and nice things, that these women get from older guys; it's security.

Woman as "The nigger of the world" may not be as true as it was in the infancy of feminism, but there's still plenty of that dynamic around. I've dated much younger women, where it was clear that my part of the contract was the security I could provide. Their end (LOL) of the bargain was also clearly understood, and by my experience, gleefully undertaken. Among developed countries, the status and opportunies for women lags here in the flagship of democracy. We both got something out of the arrangement-and I've got no problem with that.

I think a big part of this problem is the "murkin'" puritanical obsession with sex (and you could enter money on the other side of that ledger). If two people want to engage in a commerce which hurts no-one: What's the problem?

I don't know much about Ms. Dupre; but I suspect that if every such arrangement were prosecuted, the results would make the equally futile "War on Drugs" look like grammar school detention.

Elliot Spitzer was sacrificed on the alter of Puritanism; Ashley DuPre makes some bucks off the deal. This is a weird game we've allowed to flourish.

I re-read my post and see it was unclear (not that I think you were addressing me). I agree that ES was crucified for his noble, dilligent work. And that AD has every right to do what she did, and continues to do.

My first ever dual-opening of salon on my browser that I could answer questions whilst still viewing the posts... a guy can learn.

Celia; as I said I don't know much about DuPre, but isn't it like "everybody's doing it" mentality going on here? Many issues of Salon (and any other print or web media) are just cashing in. Cashing in, because people with a lurid story CAN?

Maybe AD is narcissistic, or greedy, or oportunistic; I don't know. But you could definitely say the same things about dozens of American hero's. I'll let you start your own list. That IS the game today. I profoundly disagree with it; none-the-less a reality. I don't think we have much disagreement.

Svutlov?

I thought we were pals?

As I said, the relationships seemed mutually beneficial in off-setting ways.

I prefer women who appreciate my manliness (it's so funny to type that, I'm going to let it go). I have dated older women; secure women, and It's just not for me.

As to seeing anyone married? Learned that lesson about 25 years ago. Don't like the feeling of possibly being shot.

Cheers!

Huzzah!