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Friday, November 17, 2006 12:00 AM

Shocking incident

The controversial taser incident at UCLA

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:20 PM

The Law of Self Preservation

That's a perfect title and summation of your opinion...

"Smug Opinions and Self-Induced Consequences"

That was the point, actually. Those are my smug opinions that I was talking about, and the consequences I am currently facing for giving them voice.

It is amusing though that you try and compare your pathetic violent fantasy to different situations. What a desperate ploy to try and obtain moral authority.

Because we all know that hitting an annoying student in the head with a textbook is the SAME THING as guys rushing to defend a battered woman.

What are you talking about? They weren't standing in front of her blocking his blows, they were punishing her douchebag boyfriend for being an asshole. If they were interested in "defense" they would have gently-but-firmly restrained him and called the cops. As it was, I don't think anyone called the police, they just kicked the shit out of the guy.

Anyway, in the spirit of what's good for the goose....I glad you leave open the option of getting punched in the face if you "deserve it". For your sake though, I hope the people who would hold such a privlege continue to be better people than you and exercise restraint.

I don't think they're better than me, I think they're just as confrontation-averse as me. Like I said, though, I try and avoid doing or saying things that would cause people to want to hit me in the face. Consider it a survival instinct.

Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:21 PM

Hey, maybe that guy's girlfriend could have benefitted from a throwdown.

some people really could benefit by a good old-fashioned throwdown just to clear the air.

I'm assuming by "some people" that you mean only men, because your last post implied that hitting women is not only very wrong, but the hitter deserves to have the fuck beat out of him by strangers.

Your examples of girlfriend beaters: maybe they were just having a beneficial good old fashioned throwdown.

Or am i wrong?

I've never engaged in open defiance of the police, but if I did I don't think I'd be too surprised when they reacted negatively.

They're officers of the law. They are held to standards, like you yourself said, and though i would expect to not be treated like i'm at a spa, i would not expect to be tazed after being handcuffed.

Perhaps, perhaps not. Tossing around racism as a concept is pretty much a discussion-killer, though. I can tell you that Kate Smith -- blonde or not -- wouldn't even have gotten into my college library without ID, she would have been turned away at the door.

what a strange world you live in, friend. First, you advocate that some people (and most likely, by which you only mean men) would actualy benefit from violence. Intersting. then you advocate a no-exceptions rule about IDs, and not at Los Alamos, or the White House, but a frickin college library. I'm glad that most people in this world are willing to cut others some slack than just living according to silly rules that aren't even laws.

Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:27 PM

The roots of the disagreement come out: "He's the mollycoddled, over-entitled fool I couldn't stand in college."

Entitlement. It's precisely what i said. The cops went to cop school, maybe Upstairs Criminal Justice College. The occupants of the library are some of this country's best and brightest, many of them very entitled, from perfect little suburbs and private schools. Maybe even Mostafa himself.

The cops may have been waiting to finally find a way to give it to one of the studnets, and they found a good one. A terrorist-looking one, a man, and he's clearly violating some stupid ID rule. So they tazed him AFTER THEY ALREADY HANDCUFFED HIM.

And so those of us who always resented those more entitled them ourselves, we take the side of the cops. The rich spoiled rights-obsessed brat got a dose of reality, got what's coming to him for being so frickin smartassed, and actually knowing his rights.

And the others, we either don't have a raging inferiority complex vis-a-vis entitled college kids, or we were entitled college kids, so we resent the police for clearly overstepping the line with someone who was already handcuffed.

Mostafa got what many non-entitled-college kids what to do to entitled college kids.

Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:28 PM

Drama King

Why all the drama? When a police officer says, "stand up", you stand up! Some people beg for drama then complain about it. The police have procedures (for their own safety as well) and they were attempting to follow them. The guy refused to obey...

Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:29 PM

Damn strange about that..LeCastor

"plus, where were you, lady justice? why didn't you call the police? why didn't you go talk to this girlfriend and help her go to an abuse counseilling center? Or you prefer to send the angry men to dole out justice, while you sit back and watch?"

Where was our heroine? I demand to know! Didn't even bother to call the police. Either time. The first time, she just "watched" her roomates go and heard about it afterwards and the second time she was watched period.

Now here she is on the internet going on with the fantasies about attacking some guy over nothing but when she had a chance to be brave and put her ass on the line for real, well......

Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:58 PM

To the idiots who say "why didnt he stand up?"

For all the idiot scumbags who say "why didn;t the kid stand up?"

First, being tasered is an extreme response to someone going limp.

Second, HE WAS TASERED!!! He was tasered right before the video started. Being tasered can leave a person immobile for up to 15 minutes and this kid was tasered several times.

If there were ever a seemingly minor incident to provoke this sort of response, it would be to idiots who spout off nonsense in the face of extreme ugliness.

Another time and place in the world and slime who make comments like this would either encourage, turn a blind eye, or participate in killings and rapes in Darfur, Rwanda, Iraq. These people are hollow, self loathing scum to utter such an offensive remark like, "why didnt he stand up?"

%$#@ YOU! That's what I say to those idiots. If only I had a taser to answer them more articulately.

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