Letters to the Editor
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Were you watching the same debate?
This is all you can think to say after watching that debate? That Obama looked annoyed? Thank goodness *average* Democratic voters saw it for what it was: an attempted hit-job by wingnut talking point questions. Didn't it annoy you that the justification given for not asking a single policy question for over 45 minutes was the need to discuss Obama's electability? Not Hillary's? Or that this was made the central question of debate?
Flag lapel pins, Rev. Wright, THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND for Christ sakes!
What is wrong with this picture? If you can't figure it out then perhaps you should pass this sort of analysis off to someone with a sharper ear for the nuance of attack politics.
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Seriously...
...whether your a supporter of Clinton or Obama, is there anyone out there that seriously believes Clinton will actually get the nomination?
Stumble? He doesn't even need to walk at this point.
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@Bobswire
Bullshit. I live in Boulder, Colorado, a huge moveon.org community and let me tell you they RAN and over ran the caucuses here. They intimidated Clinton supporters by screaming at them for supporting her and, while complaints were lodged, of course nothing was ever done.
I used to be a big moveon.org supporter but after what I have seen, to hell with them. Now THAT IS ROVE tactics!
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Why is Joan Walsh refusing to deal with the character issues that dog her?
Still no answer on her hatred of America (i.e. no flag pin)!
Still no answer on her pastor's love for America! Could it be that she does not even go to church?!
Come clean Walsh! If you can't answer the tough questions, you don't deserve your spot on the sacred wall of bricks.
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Guts
Hillary has guts. Hillary supporters do not? I suppose that's what we are to make of these comments from her and her coterie about those bullies from MoveOn. Listen folks, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the caucuses.
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@marcparis
Ah, yes, the excuse for abuse. Democracy by intimidation.
Tell that to the black women for Clinton who I sat beside who told me they were called cunts and traitors by other blacks for supporting Clinton.
Tell that the senior citizens supporting Clinton who looked scared to death and angry sitting in the caucus.
The real thing that will cost Obama the presidential election will be the fallout from the caucuses. It will have been the evisceration not only of Clinton but of her supporters, who I remind you, are pretty much half of the Democratic electorate, that will cost Obama the election. And it will cost us all in the end.
Obama supporters and moveon.org should think very carefully about the divisiveness THEY have created. The condescending snobbery and over-righteousness will have a price.
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Joan Referees The World Wrestling Federation "Shit-Sling of the Decade!™"
Joan Walsh, like Hillary, deliberately lowers the level of discourse to meet the IQ she presupposes voters and Salon readers possess. Or maybe she's just not very bright herself. Hard to tell.
She accepts the neocon-scripted premise that fake tag team wrestling is what's needed to save our nation from... what? Fear? Terror? Fascism? Yeah, let's put a female wrestler into the Oval Office to save us from the 'enemy'. Hillary's durability is just about her only remaining shining star. But like the bagful of old 80s music CDs I'd been storing in my closet to listen to "someday"---and that I finally, gratefully threw out last week---durability of product is pointless if you don't like the music anymore.
Obama is doing just fine. Head to head with McCain, he'll triumph, even with the garish lights, illegal jabs and untreated outbreaks of Munchausen syndrome that constitute political business-as-usual for neocon imbeciles and their support staff of Penn-in-pocket Democratic strategists and dancing dog "journalists".
Obama was getting shit from the media during yesterday's three-second news nanocycle for supposedly giving Hillary the finger during a speech the day after the 'debate.' I saw that speech and he did give her the finger. But she earned it fair and square, and, as she'll never let you forget, she "can take it!" (...except when it's actually delivered, when she cries foul in classic victim form).
In 2004, John Kerry was far too unconsciously and authentically elitist and boring a candidate to even think anything close to a 'fuck you,' in response to a neocon zap. Obama is not John Kerry. Unlike Kerry, he can actually notices when he's being attacked and he can effectively fight in response, as his supporters have seen, even without the growls and puffed up threats of violence that so thrill the hungry Clinton/neocon mobs.
Likewise, Hillary is not Bill Clinton. She lacks the gift of gab or the ability to lie in public and likeably dance her way out of accountability. Bill Clinton, himself, is no longer Bill Clinton, for that matter. Now, he's just a tired, mean, old politician; no more his sparkling, popular, former Presidential self.
Times are moving very quickly these day. Asking the Democratic candidate in 2008 to do what John Kerry really should have done in 2004 is like screaming at our parents that they never should have gotten divorced when we were little. It's a legitimate emotional response to a recurring trauma, but it isn't going to help for our parents to get remarried today, because we're adults now. It's too late for that particular form of healing to work anymore. Too much time has passed. But getting tough, cynically gritting our teeth and accepting divorce trauma as the solution doesn't heal the wounds either. Something much different is needed than another round of desensitization therapy using 'more divorce' as the healing agent.
In 2008, Republican and Democratic voters see the continously worsening results of neocons slime winning two elections in a row. They are sick of the lies and they're hypervigilant for any signs of faked terror alerts from either party. Obama offers a reasoned and heartfelt alternative to Hillary's war-toughness and McCain's tossed salad, and Obama's not boring or elitist, to say the least, except in the eyes of those who paid for a wrestling match and are not willing to settle for a round table discussion. Hillary can deliver adrenaline, but isn't easy to like. Obama can deliver solutions because he's easy to like and he's not willing to go to the pits of Hell to win.
I spoke to my one 'moderate' Republican friend the other day for the first time in months. She still can't stop herself from explaining to me our country's duty to 'defend' itself in Iraq, and yet, in the same breath she mentioned she's voting for Obama! My jaw dropped. Clinton is more conservative than Obama, but she's so unappealing as a public figure that even Bush loving conservatives are willing to vote more liberal just to avoid both McCain The Betrayer and Clinton(s), the Liar(s).
If Hillary The Hellion is so damned presumably electable against the doddering and weird McCain (and his Gumby-esque wife from another solar system), why is she still losing against our mild-mannered featherweight hero, Black Clark Kent?