I too was a bit turned off by the show giving the husband a ring to give the wife, but there were enough redeeming qualities of the show (mainly Tim!) that I watched it again tonight. Definitely a better episode. In the genre of make-over shows I think this one does some good things that are better than other shows. Does that mean they are the best shows on tv, no. But they are fun to watch. You can pick up a tip or two for your own wardrobe and it's interesting - at least to me.

This show really lost me when they gave the poor husband a new ring to present to his wife. Horrifying! Did he ASK for that? Did he CHOOSE the ring? This ring would be virtually meaningless to me, if I were in the wife's seat. Then again, if it's all about style over substance, maybe it's ok for them. I had to turn it off at this major mistake--will not be watching again.

Until stores size women's clothes like men's clothes, all the fashion gurus of the world can kiss my ass. Shopping is a headache, sizes are not standard, and most of the stuff out there is butt ugly. I will wear the simplest, easiest thing that fits and is appropriate. If they think it's frumpy, that's their problem. The money I save from not shopping goes to a 401K and a savings account. You see time with my children, stuff for my children, babysitting, my carbon fiber bike, Kurzweil keyboard, etc are FAR more important to me than shopping for clothes and putting THOUGHT into how to wear them. The time spent thinking about clothes could be spent writing, playing with kids, playing music, working out, or better still, SLEEPING A FEW MORE MINUTES!

DonaQuixote's right. The show makes clothes far too important. Tim and Veronica are fun to watch (please kill off the lifestyle coach- just please). But the whole thing reeks of making women insecure to sell them clothes they don't need to impress shallow jackasses who judge women on how their clothes fit. Please. Give me WNTW and a couple of wome in truly inappropriate, teeny tiny dresses (which often are way too small) that are fashionable and make people think those women are freezing in July. That's funny. Seeing too much is a far greater crime than seeing too little to me. Even if you are fit, I don't need to see everything.

Fashion is a business based on insecurity. Insecurity about means sales. That previous poster is right. Sometimes we have better things to do than worry about other people's assumptions. An appropriate "uniform" that is clean should be good enough. As for people who assume that being unfashionable means you don't care about anything or may be incompetant, etc., they will lose out. By assuming based on shorthand, they cut out people who are often very competent. It's their loss.

Judging based on clothes is shallow. Most people, let's be honest, don't care unless you are wearing truly inappropriate clothes. Dress too fashionably, and people will think you are an airhead. Spending too much time on the wardrobe is worse, to mee, than simply dressing frumpily.

I think Tim is wrong. Those who enjoy shop[ing, go at it. For those of us who have too much to do in any day, practical jeans and a tee shirt for errands is the way to go. I wear sweats, too.

I don't understand why people are so down on caring what others think. Being aware of the image you project is a supreme advantage in any career or personal field.

I can whine all day if I want to rationalize dressing like a slob, but it won't get me that job or that date I want.

A simple experiment of dressing up on occasion will provide plenty of proof that people will treat you with more respect and be more attracted to you both platonically and sexually if you look like you put some time and effort into your appearance. People always respond better to anything which requires some extra thought- a nice meal, a well-chosen or home-made present, a considerate favor.

Fashion and trends may be silly and transient, but wearing clean, nicely tailored and flattering clothing is not. It is generally considered polite to maintain good grooming and hygeine habits, like showering and brushing your teeth. If you wouldn't want to offend people around you by smelling bad, why is it okay to offend them visiually because you're too lazy to maintain your appearance?

"Fashion" is, by and large, an industry that sustains itself from human insecurity and poor self-image. If it was all about quality and top-notch design elements, then our second-hand clothing stores wouldn't be stocked with barely worn, overpriced goods manufactured in China, India, or the Phillipines.

There is something positive to be said about the religious argument for plain dressing.

We have been taught to "find ourselves" in fashion and all we ever come up with are uniforms. We judge each other by which uniform we're wearing, but none of them mean anything or say anything about who we are.

All it says is that we are, like our clothing, cheap commodities with no lasting attributes.

Fashion macht frei.

The vocal defense of the jeans-and-t-shirts choice is really interesting. I guess I understand not wanting to be made to feel bad if you choose not to worry about clothes at all, but the concept of putting thought and care into your wardrobe and looking your best certainly does not deserve contempt.

Can you appreciate the artistic value of a beautifully presented dish, full of color and texture, over a bowl of macaroni? Have you ever taken the time to create a lovely meal for yourself instead of standing over the sink with some cereal? It's the same with clothes. Yes, you'll be fine with bad jeans and an old shirt, the same way your body will do fine on plain noodles. You'll live. But there's nothing wrong with taking advantage of the opportunity to create beauty wherever the chance presents itself.

Dressing thoughtfully CAN make you feel good. What's the big deal?