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Sunday, October 5, 2008 12:00 AM

I Like to Watch

Ex-wives on the verge of a nervous breakdown, from USA's "The Starter Wife" to Bravo's "Real Housewives of Atlanta" to NBC's "Kath & Kim."

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 07:26 PM

Hey, waitaminute...

How can there be a TV review by Heather Havrilesky with this many dumb reality shows in it and no mention of whoring sea donkeys? I feel cheated.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:56 PM

mhellman, you weren't watching.

Only one of the shows mentioned was a reality show. I know, it's amazing. For the last six months, if it wasn't a reality show or a game show, broadcast television was doing infomercials. But surprisingly, the megacorporations have discovered that paying writers a little bit more isn't as painful as they thought.

Also, Havrilesky isn't your monkey. She especially isn't the monkey she seems to think is needed on Heroes. She has had her problems, but she has been doing exceptionally well recently. Perhaps to be a good critic you need good shows to critique. She seems to be dropping the cliches and the superficial crap that was so prevalent in her early work, and she's writing honestly and directly. That is going to disappoint the people who liked her as a John Belushi whom they could laugh at as he died in drug spasms, but she should have never played to that audience anyway.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 09:08 PM

holy moly

what's got into tomreedtoon? so generous

Saturday, October 4, 2008 10:00 PM

Every single married woman I've ever met

Has cheated or is cheating on her husband present or past. Every single one.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 01:42 AM

Carrrie, Havrilesky's improving. No reason to complain.

You obviously haven't read the column or the letters in the last two months or so. Either that, or you think I'm a person who truly hates a person's guts, like I was a desperate housewife or a gay fan of Desperate Housewives. Wrong on both accounts.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 03:15 AM

Also OJ

I cannot get logged in on the OJ article, but did watch almost all the Murder trial, and was absolutely astonished by the verdict. I always believed somehow he would get caught in something and the jury would take this into account, and apparently they did.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 03:42 AM

Oh, c'mon, Heather...

I was hoping you'd put a little blurb in there about the opening skit on SNL last night. You know, the spoof on the debate we were all waiting for with bated breath. Pure genius & spot on, I laughed my ass off. Please give us your take on it soon. We're waiting!

Sunday, October 5, 2008 06:28 AM

"Negative" wives

Only in liberal land does the word "wife" have a negative 'undertones'. And only in wimpy-man, feminist land does a woman whine that women whose jobs are outside the home are doing the really 'important' stuff. OMG, the pathology of the secular left is astounding.

For the record, we here in the hinterland, who are clinging to our guns and religion, think 'Wife' is a title of honor, that what we do outside the home is only valuable because it supports what is happening IN the home, where the really important things are found. And for God's sake, "Screaming Steam..." doesn't know any married women who haven't cheated?????? Where does he hang out? Poor man. Doesn't realize that it's HIM. Every girl he's ever had a relationship has cheated on HIM, because he is a liberal wimp.

If a man is a real man, the ladies stay put. The reason why is because they are immensely satisfied and profoundly secure.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 06:38 AM

TV shows?

People still watch TV shows? Who knew?

Sunday, October 5, 2008 06:45 AM

The promos

If the promos I've seen for 'Kath ank Kim' are any real indication I can only say that Kim is not a person I have any desire to spend any time with whatsoever. She comes across to me as one of the most annoying people it is possible to imagine.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 08:02 AM

Wait...

Can tomreedtoon explain why gay viewers of "Desperate Housewives" are crueler than straight fans of the show? Or why he would undermine an otherwise intelligent posting with such a bizarre, seemingly random reference? (Also, tom did at least once refer to Heather as a "heartless snob", so I'm willing to cut carrrie a little slack if she did think he's the kind of person who can hate someone's guts.)

Sunday, October 5, 2008 08:13 AM

I'm not going to watch any of these shows

Just want to say that the commercial for The Starter Wife, the part at the end where they just show the girl looking at you, makes her look like some kind of animatronic nightmare.

That is all.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 08:16 AM

The I like to watch Stadium

It looks like the vice presidential line up. It is a nursing of the addiction for physical and virile superiority. A longing for the royalty and elitism that was drilled into us in our youth. I suppose it was a good focus for the youth flailing wildly in the eggs and sperm cycles. The inner desire to become one of the royal crowned chosen people. God created the spectator so the elite could go on being the elite. Skipping over the Jesus part people invented the money worshippers and lo and behold there was a stadium full of royalty and regal spectators ogling over the physical and wealthy superior. England has their Queen and Rugby Royalty. America has its many Queens and Football Royalty. Golf is a sport invented for individual accountability without all the noise and political posturing.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 09:16 AM

And I don't

Remember when we used to have decent shows on TV? Remember when script writers recognized a mature audience--and wrote for them? Remember when TV audiences had higher standards than to watch garbage like Desperate Housewives, for instance? I don't know if kids even watch TV anymore, given their all-in-one Blackberries. But if they do, should they be seeing the likes of the hos on TV and thinking that is what marriage is? I think not. The real wives on the verge of a nervous breakdown are thos watching these trash TV show.

Let's hear it for reading a book instead.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 09:40 AM

Molly Shannon/Selma Blair ages?

Something I'm really surprised that Miss Heather didn't address:

Molly Shannon is 44.

Selma Blair is 36.

My first response, when I saw ads for this show, was, "what the hell?" Certainly I can suspend my disbelief for a sitcom, to a certain extent (and I think the dad on Frasier was only about 12 years older than Frasier himself). Or, perhaps Kath did give birth to Kim when she was 8, and this miracle (or tragedy) of nature has been glossed over by the producers. Or, in line with Heather's theme, what does this suggest about women over 40: that they are generically 'old' enough to pass as the mother of someone who is generically 'young'? Is this show just a filmed version of a high school play, where all the characters are actually the same age, and we just read them as certain types based on cheap costumes and props? Hmmmm....

Any thoughts, out there?

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