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Both these shows are about crime and degradation, and most of all, violence. How do they even show up on the top of anyone's list? OK, so hardly any well-written show has 0 violent scenes these days - even Californication which is, in all ways about sex and nothing but, has the 16 year old chickie beating up Duchovny.
But to love a show, to call it the best of all shows, that is relentless in it's aggression and demoralization? What are you missing in your well-ordered, safe life that you have to wallow in it over all other forms of entertainment?