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"Both these shows are about crime and degradation, and most of all, violence. How do they even show up on the top of anyone's list? ... to love a show, to call it the best of all shows, that is relentless in it's aggression and demoralization?"
Well said. There's plenty of gritty, hardcore, scary stuff going on in the world. I get it from the news and from living. I have stopped watching stuff like that on TV. I have mostly stopped watching anything, but when I do, it's got to be something that has some redeeming value, something that either provides genuine pleasure in the moment or helps reinforce the constructive tendencies in me, helps me engage with the world in a positive way when I turn the set off. There's no time in my life on this ball of rock hurtling through space for fare like these two shows.
