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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Perhaps in such a scenario there would be a place, also, for men whose identity wasn't dependent on forms of masculinity whose "strenghth" and "power" can only exist at the oppression of another, other gender/race/religion, or must be sacrificed and fretted over, in the face of such "differences."
Perhaps you also live in the typical female fantasy world where your pronunciations are gold. Feminism empowered women, but women still want the football hunk, the soldier in his uniform, the tough guy in his business suit. Women do not want flannel wearing househusbands, skirt wearing boys, or easy going, soft but useless men.
Women ADORE and WORSHIP strength and power. They also like men to do the dirty work of actually engaging dangers, maquerading as tough guys, and making the world a safer place for third gen feminist girly girls.
Men are not endless pools of power for women to hold enmity against while also raising as some model of uber-tool.
How's about you women just shut up for once and let REAL PEOPLE who actually care about the whole world, not just about one's navel, do some deciding again for once.
And to those who think this TV stuff is harmless entertainment, you can be certain the scads of women watching these shows base their marching orders, how they treat men, what they think of them, how they engage the world, on the models they pick up from this tripe.
with brightstar, women don't marry (or stay married) to dudes who stay home and watch porn all day. I am not sure why he thinks such dudes are 'stable' or 'nice guys.' But those guys do need to get comfortable for their long stay in their parents' basements!
I agree that women are assimillating these so-called "lessons" and reacting to the world and men in particular in a negative way. My point is that anyone who draws their identities and behaviors from television are weak and spineless, and thus not worthy of the energy it takes to interact with them.
So let them use their kick-assery to defend themselves against criminals. Let them clean their own gutters, dig up their own septic tanks, and all the other unpleasant things that men traditionally have taken care of. I guarantee that they will reveal themselves as the phony shrinking violets they are. Exceptions will exist of course, but I wager that most will curl up in a little ball when reality comes knocking.
If society has become more crass, vulgar, obnoxious, and contentious as a result of television, what does that say about the character of the people who make up society? They're tools...nothing more, nothing less. The only thing anyone can do in defence of their own ways of living is to avoid such people and ignore them, and if necessary fight them when their numbers grow too large. When laws are passed reflective of TV, then it's time to break them in advance of abolishing them.
are basing their new weak, whiny male characters on the men writing in the Salon letters column.
"Feminism's Bitter Harvest"?
Oh, my god. Thanks for the laugh. When I realized the title of your post wasn't ironic, I actually laughed out loud. Then I sent an email to a bunch of my friends so they could read it, too.
I haven't read paranoia and "cult of victimization" like that since... oh, I don't know, your last post, probably
You really are hysterical.
but you know as well as I that unfortunately, all too often, we DO have to engage with, despite our better interests, and deal with the consequences of the kind of people we are both talking about.
This goes back to the bigger picture.
When I tell women they hate men, they all laugh at me. Of course they love men, in their minds. To them, men are great in bed, to fend off monsters, to fight the big fights. But that is not 'love'. 'That' is a useful TOOL.
True love would mean that women LOVE all men, even the less than perfect ones, even the ones who they might not at first be attracted to. Women would look at the better points of men beyond what the men can do for them or how well they can sex them. Women would consider that there are other qualities in men that might be of worth and worth loving men for. Women would defer to men's needs sometimes instead of always just pursuing their own needs. Women would engage society in a healthy way, understanding men are half of society. Women would understand men have flaws and shortcomings and that a fair society would try to compensate men for these shortcomings.
Women treat men, who expose themselves as imperfect or weak, as contemptible losers. If men cannot breed without women and men need love and affection and sex, this is somethign to despise and hate-- even though women ALSO need love and affection. If men have needs, better to ignore those needs, better to pretend that women are always right, always weak, and always on the receiving end.
Women have to be forced to 'like' men-- this is the problem. They get propositioned hundreds of times a year, they do not have to lift a finger. Of course they take men for granted.
It is no wonder men pursue young women, they have not gotten so bitter and mercenary as the older ones.
And if women complain men treat them bad, who are these women wooing? All I ever see is the smooth talking losers who put themselves out there and engage with women constantly getting laid and getting dates and getting love and affection. Have you ever heard of a case of a woman actually pursuing a decent man? They chase sports figures, musicians, but only because of shallow reasons-- not becausehtey are good people.
Have I ever ONCE in my life been treated well by a woman who was a friend who gave up her body for me because she thought I was a good person who deserved some loving? NEVER EVER EVER. So when men say all women are whores, how far off are they?
Women hate sex with men, they hate men, they constantly EXPECT things from men, without ever thinking that the vibes and karma they put out are coming back to bite them over and over. Is it any wonder guys in the US are marriage and relationship striking in record numbers?
TV is only making things worse with its weird flaccid portrayals of fictionalized somehow vagina-threatened men who cannot deal with a woman making more money. i say, BRING IT ON! I would gladly stay home, AS WOULD MOST MEN if given a VALID ACCEPTED (by women) CHOICE, and bake cookies if it prevented me having to slave at work for a jackass boss who resents me.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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