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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:00 AM

"Showzen" people

MTV2's "Wonder Showzen" aims to do for childhood innocence what "Chappelle's Show" did for racial sensitivity. Just don't call it "'Sesame Street' on acid."

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 08:33 PM

I love this show

I love this show.

I love this show.

I love this show.

The best episode (so far) is the Ocean episode from season one. The slaves music video... incredible.

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 09:01 PM

Best. Show. On. TV.

The segment where the kids follow a pig through the slaughterhouse process . . . priceless.

Twisted, and yet so on point. That's what makes it a work of genius.

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 04:34 AM

Huge fan here

My two favorite moment:s

Both are from the segment where Clarence is asking joggers "What are you running from?"

Clarence asks a jogger "What are you running from?" then says, "YOU'RE RUNNING FROM THE TRUTH!"

After doing this several times a limping jogger passes and Clarence asks instead, "What are you hobbling from?"

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 04:37 AM

Another thought

I discovered early on with Wonder Showzen that the best segments are Beat Kids and Clarence. After that, I simply fast-forwarded through everything else in every episode just to see those two parts. (The one exception was the intoxicated bible cartoon). Everything I have read about Wonder Showzen cites Beat Kids and Clarence and little else. I would imagine that it is far easier for them to produce Clarence and Beat Kids than it is to produce custom animation. Perhaps a lean/rich adjustment is in order?

More Clarence and Beat Kids, less stuff to ff through.

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 06:04 AM

Wonder Showzen

Only one extremely bad episode (the reverse the show). Otherwise wonderful entertainment and that's good enough for me, thank god somebody is creative out there. Clarence waking and asking the homeless if they were dreaming an American dream knocked my socks off for good!

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 08:02 AM

Agreed, but where is it 3/4ths of the year?

I don't understand MTV2 or MTV's show rotation process. I caught Wondershow Zen early on, but it seemed that they stopped showing it after 2 or 3 months, and I thought it was cancelled. It wasn't on Friday night's, and it wasn't on even the odd ball hour rotations like 2 or 3 am that happened to Andy Milonakis after a few months. Does anyone know how to explain this?

But I am VERY happy that we get a second season of Wonder Showzen soon. An amazing show all around that reminds me of Kids in the Hall and Get Your War On, ie perverse but thoughtful humor at its best.

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 09:43 AM

Excellent Show

Like what a few other television critics has said about this show, I am very glad that there are still shows that have balls, stampede on the edge, and away from being "safe". Wonder Showzen is an excellent show and hooks immediately with it's creepy and teasing atmosphere, using child actors to address the most uncomfortable issues (the little girl from beat kids asking people on wall street "who are you exploiting today?" is brillant)and just using the kids entertainment forte for adult subject matter is fabulous!

I am very glad that Wonder Showzen got a second season and very much looking forward to watching it. The warning at the beginning absolutely tells what the show is about. The truths they are showing is just too awesome for normal children and adults to comprehend.

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:19 AM

Sorry, not a fan

It's too easy to be offensive, much harder to be positive.

Oh, aren't they clever, though?

These guys and "South Park" get too much credit for just being juvenile.

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 02:57 PM

sorry, not a man

Whoops! Typo!!

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 02:59 PM

Meh.

It's... got its moments. But the clips they showed weren't that funny. Okay, the white people song was kind of funny, but the little girl asking the Wall Streeters who they've exploited today didn't really work. Most of those guys seemed in on the joke. And those who didn't were smart enough to walk away before they were made fools of, and didn't even seemed embarrassed. Perhaps that gag would have worked better in Washington, DC, you know, with a congress person.

Thursday, March 23, 2006 08:41 AM

Nah, it's pretty boring.

Showzen's not that great. Honestly, this article inadvertantly sussed its subjects out with two things: the mention of Interpol, and the phrase "what Chappelle's Show did for racial sensitivity". Dave Chappelle gets too much credit for the racial portion of his show. None of his stuff is really groundbreaking, not in the Bruce/Pryor sense, it's just damn funny at times. A skit where black Americans in a barber shop dance to drumbreaks? A white family named 'Niggar'? The World Series of Dice, featuring an Asian man of unspecified nationality named 'Phyuck Yu'? It seems obvious to me he's airing out conceptions and hoary punchlines most of us have encountered, if not entertained, and because he's African-American, we think it's brilliant comedy, when it's just Mind of Mencia operating at a much higher level.

It's the same thing for Wonder Showzen. The author looks at the progeny of Sesame Street and marvels; I wonder when we're going to finally get enough. At some point, you don't need another half-hour devoted to "deflating" racial stereotypes by half-enforcing them; the same thing applies to puncturing the innocence of childhood. So we've had Robot Chicken, Andy Milonakis, TV Funhouse, Meet the Feebles, etc. Some were good, some sucked ass, but they all did the same thing: preach to the choir. There's nothing subversive about absurdist/black humor pitched at the [adult swim] demographic, and no one's really traveling any new roads. Everyone's trying so hard to make nothing sacred, and the end result? Nothing's really funny, either, at least not "unassailable" targets.

A fake socialist troupe with ironic uniforms and a bland alternindie soundtrack is not making the next great absurdist show. Wonder Showzen's just a half-assed way for its creators to stick to their 'ideals' while making some cash. Absurdist porn? Rodents with boners? It's postmodern celebrity-chasing at its most obvious. I think it's also telling that its creators have had their hands in all kinds of other mainstream fare (Comedy Central, MTV). If they throw enough forced calamity on us, we might keep thinking they've got an actual mission, instead of being Monty Python's ass-sniffing, burnout nephew.

Sunday, April 16, 2006 09:16 PM

Wonder Ho-zen

This show simply isn't all that funny. They use racial stereotypes in the same way that morons like The Bloodhound Gang does - you get the feeling they're simply saying what they like about race, being as racist as they genuinely are (biracial or not), then covering their asses by saying "we're being (yawn) 'ironic' - we REALLY DIDN'T MEAN IT!" How 'original'. How tedious. The old 'get out of racial (or whatever the issue) insensitivity jail free' card. What a get-out clause for people too ball-less to stand by the garbage they spout.

What a pointlessly bitter little show this is. It comes across as having been written by a bunch of clowns stuck at a late-teen 'anarchic' mentality who will say anything to be offensive (but no, once again they don't mean it, they're being I-R-O-N-I-C - if it needs spelled out to you again) and most of it simply isn't funny. They clearly think they're far funnier than they actually are, but an 'agenda' that comes across like some middle class kid who just heard his first Dead Kennedys album rambling about 'pigs' and 'corporations' simply isn't interesting AT ALL.

However. I will say one thing. I thoroughly enjoy most of what I can make out during the news break segment, with the headlines that rush ridiculously fast along the bottom of the screen. The wordplay and some of the ideas there are really good. Pity about the rest of this worthless pseudo-ironic post-modern post-interesting pretentious-cum-juvenile crap.

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