Letters posted here are associated with the following article:

109
Letters
Friday, January 18, 2008 12:00 AM

"Cloverfield"

Do we really need the horror of 9/11 to be repackaged and presented to us as an amusement-park ride?

The letters thread is now closed.

View:
Friday, January 18, 2008 08:15 AM

Bound to happen sooner or later...

I saw the previews for this movie Christmas day and remember turning to my friend and whispering "Well, I guess we've gotten past 9/11 enough to start blowing up NY again." The real images of that day still have the power to move me - CGI? Not so much.

Friday, January 18, 2008 08:24 AM

Anon 7:55

I see we have taken the exhortations to live an irony-free life to heart!

Friday, January 18, 2008 08:29 AM

@Nulla Sallus

Good point about commercials. I think I'll wait until it's on television because the commercials will add a lot of content to the experience. Hopefully ABC will show it instead of LOST one night.

That scheherezade thing thing went sour real fast JJ.

Until I see Cloverfield on the tube, I am keeping the image of the monster as a large polar bear with a noxious black cloud emanating from its nether regions.

Sometimes these screenplays are not about an event or a thing, but they are about the author and/or director revealing their innermost selves.

TAKE THAT!, MS LIBERTY!!!

/fight the JJ - vote ron paul

Friday, January 18, 2008 08:31 AM

Gams on Glass

Oh, I'm sorry. Sometimes I can't tell the difference between a real crank and an ironic crank. It's hard to tell in these on-line discussions.

Friday, January 18, 2008 08:32 AM

Although

I am certain: north-western loggers don't all sound like they are from the Bronx...

Friday, January 18, 2008 08:53 AM

9/11 was an amusement park ride long before "Cloverfield"

In December 2001, I took the train up from Washington, DC (where 9/11 also happened) to do my American duty and go Christmas shopping in NYC. I visited the ground zero site, which was still being "unbuilt" at the time. When I was there, a father assembled his three children at the most open spot in the fencing surrounding the site, pulled out his camera and said, brightly, "Smile!" They did, and he took several pictures. I gaped at them in horror -- this sacred ground, this national wound, this tomb, it was a simple tourist attraction to them, something to go see in New York like Times Square or Central Park.

Less than four months had passed since the attacks when I saw that family have their "Kodak Moment." Since then 9/11 has been used for so much more -- the justification for an illegal invasion of Iraq, the backdrop of a silly run for the presidency by Rudy Giuliani, the alleged reason for an evisceration of our nation's Constitution -- that it hardly seems like such a horrifying prospect to see it be the basis of a monster movie. I haven't seen "Cloverfield" (having had a baby two weeks ago, I doubt I'll venture to the multiplex anytime soon), but it seems like the visceral visuals of the film, while causing an understandable reaction, are the least of our worries when it comes to the uses of 9/11. Abrams as a carny barker may cause a resurgence of unpleasant memories, but the uglier carny barkers -- those in the Bush administration and those in America who would blithely go along with their plots, telling their kids to "Smile!" when thinking about deaths of their fellow Americans (and other world citizens) -- those haunt our present and cast a pall on our future, and it is their plots and lazy evocations of 9/11 that should sicken us. A movie can be avoided more easily than the cost of war.

Friday, January 18, 2008 09:09 AM

Another Venom piece

Wow. this lady is hateful. I read that "there will be blood" hacket job. Started reading this, and had to stop and read the author. Same person. man. horrible reviews.

why does salon give this lady space? How would go see any movie after reading these bile? I know gop'ers want to go back to john wayne movies and black and white of the fifites. Cult gop propoganda. Those days are over. no amount of sabotaging the future will bring you back to your past. Your living decades in the past steph. Get with the program. Grow and change. the 50's aren't coming back. Rather than hating progress. Why no join it?

Friday, January 18, 2008 09:14 AM

Speaking of Watchmen...

Alan Moore said something along the lines of "pulling 2000 dead people out of a pile of rubble is a daily occurrence in some countries."

I have to agree with him. I come from a country that has been experiencing terrorism for decades. It's life. It stinks, but you get on with it.

So typically American to keep wittering on about trauma 6 years after the fact. I think the real trauma that took place on that day was the realization for Americans that their country is not invulnerable.

How many people here, of those complaining about Cloverfield's similarly to 9/11, have ever enjoyed a film about Vietnam? WWI? WWII? About horrible things that really happened to people all over the world? The liberals wringing their hands about Cloverfield and the conservatives cheering on the slaughter of innocent Iraqis are both saying the same thing: "We're Americans - how dare you attack us." America's pain is different, I guess. We all need to take it much more seriously than the pain and violence inflicted upon others. Because after all, they are not Americans.

Yes, it was horrible. Yes, it was a tragedy. Welcome to the world.

Friday, January 18, 2008 09:32 AM

Not suprising

Being 'about' 9/11 could be fine. The original Gojira was about Hiroshima/Nagasaki. And it's no coincidence that so much anime at some point features the slow-motion destruction of a city. (Although less so now than 20 years ago, it seems.)

I expect the film to be crap, because all of Abrams' TV shows have an intriguing set-up and then pointlessly unravel into nothing.

Friday, January 18, 2008 09:35 AM

Lazy Filmmaking

Is there a reason (other than spectacle) that this monster attacks NY, as opposed to any other city on the coasts?

Terrorist or alien movies where they attack NY: ok, I get it, you can do research. It's a population center. You're sentient. Go at it.

But random creatures picking it always bugs me. Manhattan is a shielded harbor. You don't just happen upon it. The thing would hit ground on Long Island, Brooklyn, hell, even Bayonne before heading up the East River. With the latest Godzilla, I'll go along... "Hey, let's blow up NY, it'll be fun!"

But here, it doesn't sound like Cloverfield is supposed to be fun. It's horror veritae.

Well, give me my veritae!

Echoing the other thoughts around, blowing up NY in a movie is just starting to feel like a lazy premise. The more I hear about this movie, it sounds like something out of a South Park episode, or The Player: "It's Godzilla meets The Blair Witch Project, but ya know, with heart."

Most Active Letters Threads

509

Everybody hates mommy

We're "stroller Nazis." We're whiny "breeders." Why is there so much contempt for mothers these days?
374

Rule-of-law extremism engulfs primitive Eastern Europe

Why would the new President of Lithuania demand investigations of CIA black sites in her country?
295

The extreme secrecy of the federal courts

Judges are not only permitted, but required, to conceal anything the government declares to be secret.
94

Explaining ClimateGate: A history of distrust

Asking researchers to delete e-mails after receiving an FOI request is never a good idea. So why did it happen?
80

"Sons of Anarchy": Badass or just bad?

FX's biker drama makes heroes out of swaggering, hard-living thugs, but don't ride into the sunset with this bunch

View all »

Letters Help

Currently in Salon