He's a generation older -- post beat pre hippie -- paleolithic, boomers are neopaleolithic

He and Mick Jagger are the major poets of my generation -- when Dylan went electric his back up men -- Paul Butterfield, Mike Bloomfield, Mark Naftalin -- the Butterfield Blues Band are -- esoteric rnr crap -- analogues of the Rolling Stones -- Paul a year and a day older the Keith, Mike 2 days younger than Mick ... and what did they effin record -- Like a Rolling Stone ...

That's archetypal ... even better than le mot just, donchya think?

meant film not file.

doesn't understand or like this file. On the other hand, Rob Thomas, Capital Times gives it 4 out of 4 stars.

The reviewers seem split!

I was really looking forward to seeing "I'm No There", but the simple fact that Ms. Zacharek enjoyed it is probably a horrible sign. I agree with her on one out of every hundred reviews. Worrisome.

For a different opinion on this movie go read Antony Lane's review at the NYer.

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2007/11/26/071126crci_cinema_lane

Thanks to the Internet, it's now possible to download a bootleg copy of Superstar (that's how I saw it). I'd link but I don't want to get anyone in trouble.

Well, I'll be the first to admit I'm rather silly. I don't think I'm silly about Dylan, but to a seasoned listener (and I apologize for my snarky "Dylanologist" comment) I guess my eruption was pretty...silly! I have to admit I get so sickened by corporation and commercialisation EVERYWHERE! You get used to it in news and politics (well, so far Dennis Kucinich is a breath of fresh air in that regard, and bless Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann!); and questionable patronage of the arts has always been with us (how else did the Vatican get all those goodies?). But it's gotten SO pervasive, with artists (and I use the term strictly; Britney Spears can not be considered and artist)shilling for some of the nastiest companies, who use sweatshop labour (Vic's Secret) and exploit workers (Starbuck's), that it hurts to see someone with talent, do the exact opposite of what they claimed to stand for!...I did love it when the Cash family told the Preparation H company to take a flying...when approached for authorisation for "Ring of Fire" to be used in a commercial. It might have been more about the unsavouriness of the product than the commercialisation itself...but still!..

And yes, I still enjoy Led Zeppelin, even with that Mercedes ad.

I wonder--Has Neil Young advertised anything since he sang "Don't advertise Pepsi; Don't advertise Coke; Don't advertise nuthin'; makes me look like a JOKE!" I'd be interested to hear if so...

Well, happy Thanksgiving Chris--(and I MEAN that!! tho' we may have a lively debate again on another topic...)

It's all a sycophantic clusterfuck.

Say it. "sycophantic clusterfuck"

Notice the rhythm.

Breathe

Dylan wrote some good songs. Particularly good (with his delivery) were "The Ballad of Hollis Brown" and "Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll". Others seemed better when performed by others. ("Bob Dylan's Dream" done by Peter, Paul & Mary, for example.)

But the worship of this guy is out of control. Particularly among the critics, but also within the very narrow cultural segment where he appears to resonate. Most of the lyrics quoted in this thread, if uttered by an unknown in an open mic coffeehouse, would elicit a series of giggles and rolled eyes, politely suppressed of course.

said this:

"... And I don't think any of his songs will survive the generation that idolizes him..."

but you betrayed your utter stupidity by actually committing that nonsensical piece of crap to print. Think: Bob Dylan wrote songs nearly 50 years ago that are still loved, listened to, analyzed and argued over. I think we've made it past more than just ONE generation who idolize him.

Dylan DID change songwriting. No one before him created songs with the inscrutable layers of meaning he did. As great as many songwriters were, songs pre-Dylan were rarely open to much in the way of interpretation. If you'll bother to take the time to read the lyrics to songs like "Chimes of Freedom," "Lay Down Your Weary Tune," the aforementioned "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)" or "Love Minus Zero/No Limit," "Subterranean Homesick Blues"... hell, even "Mr. Tambourine Man" for chrissakes, I can't believe even someone as dim as you knuckleheads could miss the brilliant poetry in those and countless other songs.

Hell, read the opening lines of "Like a Rolling Stone" out loud - don't sing them, say them - and tell me Dylan had no impact on future rap composers.

I don't particularly care if someone doesn't like the music I like - it makes it all the more special to me. But it galls me to no end to hear people slam something that they obviously haven't taken the time to understand.

One last thing: Masked and Anonymous is brilliant, not dreadful or whatever the insult was, though I know that Stephanie and I may well be the only people in the world to feel that way. Stephanie, if you actually read these letters, you won my heart the day I read your review of that movie.

but saw velvet goldmine a couple years ago. Don't recall much about it other than I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would. His movie with Julianne Moore and Dennis Haysbert was pretty good too.

So, yea, I'll probably see this movie when it comes to hbo.

2 ears from john lennon until blonde on blonde? 1967. long enough. thanks for proving my point.

"The Beatles met Dylan at the Hotel Delmonico in New York on 28 August. (1964) He offered to roll a joint, and the Fab Four had to admit they had never partaken before. 'Until then we'd been scotch and Coke men,' McCartney would say later. 'It sort of changed that evening.'"

"The evening was the start of a long, albeit intermittent, friendship with Dylan, and they made arrangements to see him again when they passed through New York at the end of their tour."

anyhoo, brightstar agree with you.......