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Friday, June 1, 2007 12:00 AM

"Knocked Up"

Don't expect cutesy diaper jokes or starry-eyed mooning about innocence -- Judd Apatow's hilariously honest comedy refuses to fetishize parenthood.

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Sunday, July 22, 2007 02:03 PM

With such a ' so thoughtful' title who'd have expectations?

And...Stephanie, having been a mature movie goer for over 60 years and a counselor to too many tragically mismatched couples, -I can say (authoritatively, I think) - that it definitey was not 'hilarious' or 'honest.'

The release date was somewhat earlier, so I was in a theater audience of probably less than 100 people on 7/2, 80% of whom were probably under 25 yo, leaving 10 or so of us who can remember truly honest AND good humor (which didn't depend so rediculously heavily on a schoolboy drop-out vocabulary and mentality). Still, it was not an audience who found all that many laughs.

And a dishonest film, in that it asked us to believe that a group of terminal simpletons could, in a matter of months, mature even to the point we are shown in the latter part of the story. It was like seeing pieces of two different films. What was that girl thinking??. Would you want to be that child a few years down the road?? (I imagine the kid in "Waitress" as being far better off than this one.)

When it comes to growth and maturity, Is it really no longer an interest or task of media art to offer some more honestly challenging models. Does the $$buck$$ and f-word (which has never bothered me when I realy need it) now rule so completely? Please say you're not in their pocket.

(Still a fan, but a dissenting voice waiting for more honest hialrity)

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:39 AM

Where is the female Seth Rogen?

Candypants wrote: "All the people who have written in about the preposterousness of a fat, ugly slob like Seth Rogen getting with a good looking woman: you sound as out of touch as my grandmother, who still thinks that an attractive man should look like Leslie Howard."

Word - Seth Rogen and his funny, smart, laid-back brethren *are* hot (I'm looking at you, Jack Black!). I just hope I don't have to be as old as your grandmother before I see a movie where Janeane Garofalo or Toni Colette snag Brad Pitt or George Clooney.

Thursday, June 14, 2007 01:52 AM

How realistic is it that a beautiful girl would find Seth Rogen attractive?

Very.

Seth Rogen's girlfriend of two years IS beautiful.

You can see her with Seth at the premiere of "You, Me and Dupree".

http://movies.about.com/od/youmeanddupree/ig/dupreepremiere/dupreeprem22.htm

Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:28 PM

Sure, but why does *he* like *her*?

I really enjoyed "Knocked Up." I think Seth Rogen is ridiculously hot and I laughed hard enough to find myself spontaneously clapping at more than one joke.

But one thing really bothered me -- who the hell is this girl? I get why she likes Rogen's character -- he's funny, charming, sweet, and fairly self-aware -- but why does he like her? We see Heigl's character at work, and we see her reacting to being pregnant. But we don't see any of her hopes, dreams, or fears. We barely know her.

By the end of the film, I was almost angry. Why is he settling for this boring girl? Is a pretty face and a hot bod really enough to make an intelligent man fall deeply in love?

I don't think Judd Apatow means to suggest that all dudes need is physical beauty, but it sure seemed that way.

Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:28 PM

O. M. G.

To those who have mentioned that the "romantic" lead in this movie is good-looking... Uh, are you people BLIND? This guy is so chunky that it's not clear whether he has a jawbone. He has conspicuous BACK fat. Of course he's laid back; that's probably his most comfortable position.

If he'd been cast opposite Rosanne Barr, I wouldn't bat an eyelash. But strangely enough, his female counterpart is gorgeous and thin. Why couldn't Ryan Reynolds and his delicious physique get this part instead of this fat ass?

Yes, women (and men... yes, men can too) can appreciate charm irrespective of looks, but the days when an ugly-ass male celebrity could get by solely on perceived charm are almost completely behind us. Women want beautiful sex objects to look at just as much as men do.

And this Knocked Up chubster doesn't cut it.

Tuesday, June 5, 2007 12:32 PM

Kevin Federlines of the world

Haven't seen the movie (though I'd love to) but just wanted to add a note about the Kevin Federline reference.

Despite what I and maybe you perceive as his overall skankiness (can men be skanks?), reports are that Kevin Federline the individual is actually a pretty good father. The public image that we know doesn't completely match up with the reality, apparently.

Still, I realize that the name "Kevin Federline" can refer to a general class of irresponsible, overgrown-adolescent "baby daddies." So in general, point taken. We should not expect Hollywood endings to our real-life dilemmas.

Monday, June 4, 2007 04:50 PM

As for "Peter Joshua"

...I smell studio plant (or someone from a conservative site.) His snotty attitude and arguement are the kind of "spike controversy" spin someone invested in making this movie a hit would say...

Monday, June 4, 2007 01:46 PM

Thanks, LillianJane

Thank you for your three cheers. I for some reason feel very invested in my critique of the movie and wish the Salon.com editors would check it out! In the meantime, it's nice to know a few people here appreciate what I observed.

Monday, June 4, 2007 01:30 PM

Hear hear!

<<In sum: Don't we all wish our juvenile 20-somethings would get their acts together and grow up already? Well, this film has the answer: accidental pregnancy! Boys will become men. Girls will become...mothers, at the very least. Boys will get JOBS and stop SMOKING POT. Girls will...become mommies. Boys will get their own apartments finally and stop hanging out with all their loser pot head friends! Girls will...become mamas. Boys will stop talking about BJs and big titties all the time and bond with “cool” 30-something dudes who have real jobs and families! Girls will...get knocked up.

-- katzwick>>

Fabulous analysis, katzwick! I think we should be married, if you're a man, or BFF if not!

Sunday, June 3, 2007 09:11 PM

in a way there's some justice in it....

women think men are idiots when men interfere with women always getting everything their way so it's kind of funny that they would "often" apparently be in a position where reality actually appears to confirm their inclination to believe that women are in fact smarter, etc. etc and men apparently are proven to be losers, idiots, etc.....and what do you know they STILL AREN'T completely happy!

Sunday, June 3, 2007 07:13 PM

What's scary to me

I've actually seen this scenario played out in real life several times. It never ends well. If a person is not mature before the pregnancy, usually they don't straighten up after without a brick upside the head (for some women the pregnancy IS the knock upside the head.)

So none of this sounds funny to me. An immature man who needs someone to remind him to act right? WHo has good intentions and never follows through? Are Babydaddies funny if they are stoners instead of thugs? If the women are blonde and not brunette, upper class and not the usualy middle and working class? Since when were the Kevin Federlines of the world that funny? This guy is far to many people's reality of the father who screws up and "forgets" visits, child support, etc. A man who is a RESPONSIBLE man is more attractive. Why can't the movies exault these kinds of guys, instead of the irresponsible but charming loser? Irresponsible but charming losers reformed by women is a cliche.

I married a grown up man to avoid these problems. If this movie reinforces the idea any man can be "matured" by a woman, it's perpetuating a really nasty idea that causes a lot of pain.

My hubby will go. I'm ambivalent. Mr. Joshua hasn't said one thing that makes me want to see this movie, but neither have the others. This scenario is realistic, but it doesn't sound that funny here.

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