But you still defend them and shame Bush??

It is possible to shame Bush and revile the actions of those who behead Americans. Is that so hard to understand?

that the USA is the oldest democracy in the world. The country which saved the world from Hitler. We're the good guys. We set up a goverment by, for, and of the people.

Islamists, on the other hand, JUMP at any opportunity to sever an American's head from his body, any American, combatant, journalist, truck driver, etc... They would also JUMP at any opportunity to drop a nuke on New York or Washington. Or to set off a biological weapon in our subways.

One more time, who are the bad guys?

Is everyone eating crazy pills?

If you are a white America reading this, KNOW that Islamists would LOVE to cut your head off. But you still defend them and shame Bush?? Look, I don't like him either, I'm just asking you to consider our 'opponents,' and their actions.

If you still dislike America so much, you can go to a middle eastern country, such as the ones in which Americans are decapitated, and see how you are treated. (or just see how long you can see.)

I didn't realize that there was only ONE definition of "harsh treatment". Thanks for straightening that out. My conscience is so much clearer now.

I remember all the Nazis we took down into the basement and tortured during the Second World War, because they did, after all -- oh, wait a minute, we didn't. Back then, we were being run by decent men, not by hysterical, evil men like Bush and Cheney.

Because saying that we're better than terrorists who behead innocent hostages sets the moral bar really high, right?

/snark

You're starting to piss me off!

Harsh treatment? Since when is it o.k. to do illegal, abusive, harsh stuff just because the other person/country/whatever did even worse stuff?

Since when?

How about the beheading of Eugene Armstrong, an American Civil Engineer? Does his beheading make you shake with rage Andrew? Does it make you want to go to a safe American bar and drink? Do American beheadings make you 'shake' at all? Or did they deserve it? Let me know what you think.

Talk to a relative of Nick Berg. THAT'S HARSH TREATMENT.

I don't like what Bush is doing either, but please, let's agree on what 'harsh treatment' is.

Speak to a member of Paul Johnson Jr's family. THATS HARSH TREATMENT.

(fyi - these people I'm bringing up were AMERICANS who were BEHEADED in the middle east).

I call beheading 'harsh.'

Salon may have a different definition.

Pretty brave to attack another person under the veil of anonymity. Not a member of government. Not a member of the press or the punditry or the tv talking heads. But let's stone a person, a family going through a difficult time.

What would Jebus do?

Talk to Daniel Pearl's family. THAT'S HARSH TREATMENT.

Why are people still defending Alec Baldwin? It must be tribalism. He's "one of us" or some crap like that.

Good thing he didn't call anyone "fat" -- now there's an unforgivable sin at Salon.