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Friday, July 7, 2006 12:00 AM

"Heading South"

This movie -- about older white women paying for sex with beautiful young Haitian men -- is bound to get under people's skin.

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 08:33 PM

Sex with prostitutes in Haiti

No big deal. What's the worst that could happen? A little penicillin should clear anything you pick up down there.

Reminds me of the 80's era Saturday Night Live sketch called "Bad Idea Jeans". A bunch of yuppies sit around talking, and it becomes apparent that they are all dumbasses. Says David Spade: "Normally I wear protection. But then I asked myself, 'when's the last time I'm gonna be in Haiti?'"

I'm sure it's a lovely film.

Thursday, July 6, 2006 08:40 PM

But....

The review tells us that the movie never lets us forget so much about Haiti. But it doesn't let us remember one thing - it was older men, not older women, who went to Haiti in the 70s and early 80s to have sex with younger men.

I just don't think it's right to render a real story politically correct the way the author of the book did by portraying the sex tourists as women. I think it would have been as much of a potent and poignant a story to have had the characters be male, as they were in real life.

Thursday, July 6, 2006 09:49 PM

Actually actually....

It's not being politically correct. There are plenty of women sex tourists.

http://www.mangosauce.com/travel/female_sex_tourist_bali.php

http://www.developments.org.uk/data/issue27/gambia-paradise.htm

I guess women sex toursists make more interesting movie subjects than male sex tourists. I mean, what movie would you rather see and delve into the pysche of the protagonists: one where older women find sexual satifisfaction in the arms of younger black gigolos or male NAMBLA types trolling Haiti?

Though, it does make one wonder about the hypocrisy about May-Dec sex and how there are differing standards for men and women, i.e. I'm sure a male Mary Letorneau would have been ass-raped in prison, etc. etc.

Friday, July 7, 2006 07:41 AM

why "brokeback Haiti"?

A "Politically correct" author/filmmaker WOULD have made this between men.

Friday, July 7, 2006 09:57 AM

Sure, Women Are Sex Tourists

Sure, women are sex tourists, mainly in made-up Penthouse letters and movies like this.

What's amazing to me is that, here in Atlanta, I can turn to my daily newspaper, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, and the oh-so-progressive weekly "alternative" paper, "Creative Loafing," and find plenty of ads selling women specifically by ethnicity -- white, black or Asian -- and neither the Bible thumpers nor the pretend Samuel Gompers even blink.

Tina Trent

Atlanta

Friday, July 7, 2006 01:55 PM

No, some women are sex tourists real life.

Don't know about the movie, but, I'm not sure why that's hard to believe.

Friday, July 7, 2006 03:11 PM

of course we are just as likely to be sex tourists as men

dont let anyone tell you different and when haiti fell - the secret among women to find hungry young hot men is bali!

im 26 now - when i get older - i do hope sex isnt just a gift for the young - older women deserve sex and haqppiness or sex in happiness as much as the next guy

:D

Friday, July 7, 2006 06:11 PM

This Movie Sounds Absurd

We need 90 minutes of Charlotte Rampling (who looks every bit her age, incidentally) and a few other ladies boffing Haitian studs-for-hire to figure out that there is a difference between a lay for pay and real love??

If that's true, then we are in real trouble.

Friday, July 7, 2006 07:29 PM

Just wondering

A friend of mine used to go to Haiti every year "to collect art" in the early sixties, so I think the history of the theme is even more venerable than other LWs have noted. Is there anything in the literature, fiction or non-fiction, that would shed more light on the tradition among older gay men?

Friday, July 7, 2006 09:49 PM

I don't buy it...

Women (especially educated, privileged white women) going to Haiti--Haiti!--for sex, that is. Male homosexuals, yes...as was discussed on Frontline recently. But rich gals don't have to go all the way to a Third World shit-hole for some ethnic shtupping...they can just ask the gardener, Juan, if he'd like a glass of iced tea. Of course, this is just a movie after all...and I imagine an empowering one for old broads. Haven't had that since Calendar Girls.

Friday, July 7, 2006 09:52 PM

It's still happening...

and many of the women AND men who buy sex or lord their money over those who need it from back home(for me that's the Caribbean)are engaging in this relationship with minors. I think you guys call that pedophilia in the States, no?

Saturday, July 8, 2006 08:41 AM

Don't get around much, do you?

Anyone who finds the idea of women over 50 trolling for some sexual gratification a novelty or somehow a recent development, has probably not lived in the northern European countries.

In my late teens I spent three months in Europe answering personal ads in the daily newspapers, trading a place to stay, dinners and sometimes even cash, in exchange for giving lonely older women a few days worth of fantasy love-making. I think they call that being a gigolo.

Haven't seen this movie yet, but I plan to. But from the review, it sounds like the film doesn't cover what it's like for a young, somewhat inexperienced guy, to get the best damned sex of his life and get paid for it to boot.

Young guys are mostly stupid. They have such high standards. They fantasize about virginal nymphs and how great the sex will be when they finally bed them. But mostly I found back then that young girls don't know what the hell they are doing. Despite their umblemished beauty, they are usually really lousy in bed.

Ah but women of 50 plus! They have personalities. They are willing to pleasure you and let you pleasure them. In between the long bouts of coitus, you can talk to them and they are actually interesting.

A few cautions for those young guys who wish to try it. Older women are nearly insatiable. If you can't stay in the saddle for hours at a time, the gigolo business is not for you. Sometimes when I was with them, I felt like I was being asked to make up for decades of bad relationships they had with boyfriends and husbands, ex and current ones. Don't expect to get any sleep.

One other thing: You might find yourself falling in love with one of them. Just like in the 1966 film "Alfie" you may come back a month later to find that as you grew more attached than you thought, your Ruby has a new and younger lover as her toy.

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