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Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:00 AM

Why "Brüno" is bad for the gays

Sacha Baron Cohen's character could have been a bold stab at homophobia. Instead it's a mincing minstrel show

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 07:23 PM

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Many gays come across as Brüno does, so I think he's just portraying reality

Stereotypes aren't always fiction and sometimes they're hilarious

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 07:24 PM

If Mr. Rakoff is right and Bruno is bad for the gays,

laurel962 will be buying tickets by the handfuls.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 07:27 PM

How could Borat be bad for Brüno?

But as it turns out they actually acquited themselves rather well. There really wasn't any truly embarassing moment.

What? The guy at the rodeo who told Borat about how they killed queers "here", more or less, acquitted himself rather well? Everybody at that same rodeo cheering when Borat said something, more or less, about how he hoped that president Bush would drink the blood of his enemies? Or maybe they were cheering right up to the point he said that and finally went "too far". You didn't find any of that particularly embarrassing?

There will be those who will tell me to lighten up, and it's not like I don't want to. I really, really do.

No, seriously. Lighten up. I'm sure you'd figure out how to do it if you really, really, really wanted to but I have a feeling that you don't really mean it.

“To me, bad taste is what entertainment is all about.” -- John Waters

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 07:28 PM

Neanderthals

"...and "a-feared of spooks" as their eyes bugged out in Neanderthal, superstitious terror..."

Dude, have the GEICO commercials taught you nothing?

We have feelings too!

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 07:36 PM

Why are you upset at Cohen acting like Andy Kauffman?

Kauffman was praised to the skies for doing the same kind of "put-on" performance, perhaps with less political import, but still treating the audience with contempt.

When Cohen can perform in a scripted part, like in the Sweeney Todd film, he can carry a part. But his original material is intended to make the audience squirm. It is just as much a geek act as the drunken guy in the carnival who bites the head off a live chicken. And to willingly go to the show is to try to eat the ham sandwich afterwards (which is spiced with ipecac so you always throw it up).

And for the record, Kauffman is dead. If he isn't, let me know where he is so I can gather a posse to hunt him down and correct that mistake.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 07:46 PM

Gay Man, Yes and No, Response to Some Comments

I'm gay.

Reading these comments:

One: Borat was ******* hillarious.

Two: I doubt this will be, though, because prejudice and hate is actually too real and alive, right now.

To Wit: One person's comment that some gays are sex interested femmy (but pretty hot if that Sacha Cohen) guys...and that THAT is (his words) "hillarious". (It's not.)

I don't think I'll see the movie; too much pain in my life and those I know from hatred from straights, basically guys, but the women aren't altogether stopping it.

I think that the author's point may not be right. He's wrong that gay men like me need to portray ourselves as celibates in order to 'earn' our civil rights. Blacks don't, like Michael Jackson, need to change their skin color to become 'ok' in society.

To be gay means to be attracted SEXUALLY to like-sexed. Of course we want sex, and have it, just like everyone else. So What?!

The strategy of 'be in the closet' and 'pretend or be celibate' or 'butch it up'....NONE Of these ever worked, nor should they have.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 07:48 PM

What'd You Expect?

When it comes to ridicule, gays in America are still low-hanging fruit.

What'd you expect?... It's not like Cohen is going to make a satire about the cultural displacement of an orthodox Jewish person (his own background) in America.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 07:51 PM

I'm trying, but...

I'm gay. My partner and I (we've been together 10 years, not that the government gives a damn) are trying to find the humor in Bruno but we just can't. Until we have civil equality this kind of thing simply isn't funny to us. The reality is just too painful.

I'm interested in how the movie will be received. Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but I think it will be an hour and a half of hilarious gay bashing for most of the people who go. I hope I'm wrong.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 07:52 PM

Brüno is bad for the gays?

From the previews I’ve unavoidably seen and your review, I don’t thing “Brüno” is good for anyone.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 08:08 PM

Sorry ... It Was Hilarious

Please, for all fans of SBC, go see it and make up your own minds. Bruno is the funniest movie I've ever seen. I am a heterosexual male who does not identify with the woman-hating characters in The Hangover, but I can still laugh at (and sometimes with) them. Bruno is the gay equivalent. He's out, he's proud, and he's a complete effing moron. So what? He still takes the piss out of the homophobes in the film and comes away as a strong, self-centered, and most-importantly, sympathetic character who just happens to love raunchy gay sex. And more power to him.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 08:15 PM

So Gay People Are Hating This Movie?

Now we know how the Khazaks felt. Who stands up for them huh?

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 08:16 PM

Acting like a total asshole can be funny

But after a while, you may realize that

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 08:18 PM

@Dominick in Charlotte

Just so you know, I believe David Rakoff is also openly gay. So when he talks about gays like you, he is also referring to himself.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 08:22 PM

Bruno will cause the Great Gay Awakening???

Aside from whether SBC is funny or not, he's vulgar. That's not a criticism, he just is. That's his style. To expect any sort of cultural awakening to come out of vulgarity is a little far-fetched. It's just a stupid movie that will probably come in around 12th in box office in its first week because it doesn't have enough explosions in it.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009 08:31 PM

Tell us something we don't know:

This is what I got from Borat:

1. Frat boys are stupid.

2. Most people don't want to see a fat guy and a skinny guy wrestle naked.

3. Pooping in a bag and bringing it to a dinner table is bad manners, and your southern hosts won't like it. Really? I had no fucking clue. Thanks for illuminating that, SBC!

4. You can whip up rodeo attendees by talking about how awesome America is. Again, I had no clue.

Most humor is mean-spirited, but not everything mean-spirited is funny. And I already knew that some Americans are ignorant and vicious, I didn't need you running around like an asshole for two hours to see that. When you dropped the bag and the chicken squawked, that was funny. Another hundred or so good jokes and Borat would have been worth the reviews and the price of admission.

Oh, and most of the anti-semitism was initiated by SBC himself. If people went along with it, shame on them or whatever, but the most "anti-semitic" parts of Borat were scripted.

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