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Friday, October 23, 2009 12:00 AM

"Star Trek": Coming to a theme park near you!

Is the interactive kiddie spinoff "Star Trek Live" the final, gruesome nail in Gene Roddenberry's space-coffin?

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Sunday, October 25, 2009 03:30 PM

Flyover Country

"At Waldameer WaterWorld in Erie, Pa."

Tee-hee-hee... It wouldn't be stupid if kids in New York and LA got access to some fun activity that might increase their interest in science, but something great like Star Trek going to Pennsylvania? I hear they don't even have starbucks there!

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Saturday, October 24, 2009 06:08 PM

RE: HERE IT COMES..........

I agree with the comments about Abrams ghastly Star Trek movie. It was a good movie but in my opinion it was lousy Star Trek. There was enough material in the first two seasons of TOS to create a very plausible movie that would bring Kirk & crew together w/o throwing everything overboard. In both TNG & Enterprise the 23rd Star Trek fleet ships were beautifully re created and they did not look cheesy by any means. I can understand Abrams wanting to put his stamp on Star Trek but why -throw out nearly everything? If some group wants to bring Star Trek live then I am going to find backing for my idea- Star Trek The Next Generation starring the Muppets! Why not? I am going to do to the TNG what Abrams did to TOS. What until you see Miss Piggy relieve Captain Picard of his command! If Abrams can re do TOS then I will competely re do TNG.

Saturday, October 24, 2009 11:46 AM

Old-time Trekkie here

I was born in 1966 - same year as Star Trek! I just want to go on record as saying (ok I'm already on record elsewhere) that I love the newest movie. I thought it put every foot right - except for filming Riverside, Iowa (where my dad lives) outside of Fresno. Iowa soil isn't red, and it won't be in two hundred years.

That is all. Star Trek lives!

Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:39 AM

Trek

Was "Bread and Circuses" a third-season episode? If it wasn't, it should have been.

NY City Opera once had plans to do a STAR TREK opera. Talk about space opera! That was what -I- wanted to see. Hell, I wanted to write it. Some of the basses are big enough to be Klingons anyhow, and Klingon opera was a staple of the franchise starting with TNG.

I rather enjoyed last summer's film. While it wasn't particularly kind to the Romulans and did something that shocked me out of my pointy ears, I forgave almost all of it for the wonderful moment in which Nimoy confronts Quinto, Old and Young Spock. At that point, the screen blurred, and I'm waiting for the DVDs to see it again.

Nimoy acted everyone off the screen.

And I still wish they'd do a real opera. The audience reaction alone would be a complete and total joy.

I'm reminded of the late Sir Rudolf Bing's aphorism about critics: they're failed artists.

Saturday, October 24, 2009 08:02 AM

@J.Mandel

Thanks for beating me to that mention: Star Trek was perhaps ecumenical and interdenominational, but NEVER remotely atheistic. I remember well the episode you speak of, and it clearly indicates that Captain Kirk and Lt. Uhura, at least, are Christians.

Put me in the camp with the other Trekkies who were appalled at this summer's crappy, violent, intellectually bankrupt "remake" of the original Trek franchise "with new, younger, cuter actors". I was not so upset about the change in cast members -- it was inevitable (unless you just let it die a natural death, which was my vote) -- as I was the complete change in moral outlook. Star Trek was supposed to be about a utopian future, and many of the old episodes (despite plywood sets painted silver and corny special effects) posed intelligent and thoughtful moral questions -- Trek had its moments of action and adventure, but at its heart it was about intelligent humans trying to act in a moral way in a larger universe.

The new movie is just about kicking butts, fist fights and dominating others through violence and bullying; it's a pathetic sellout of everything Roddenberry (or Gene Coon, who rightly deserves partial credit) created and it is a sad, sad commentary on how far things have fallen in the movie industry in this country that this crass pointless piece of garbage was a well-reviewed summer "hit".

However, Star Trek has survived a lot of stuff, including some pretty bad "spin off" series (but not the animated series, which was actually pretty decent). So hopefully it will survive the new movie, and survive any sort of Broadway-esque show. Heck, it survived William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy doing song albums! And as some have pointed out correctly, there have ALREADY been live Trek shows in the past.

The Star Wars franchise survived some really perfectly ghastly TV productions, including one which I believe (somebody correct me if I am inaccurate) depicted a Wookie Christmas.

On the other hand -- well, sometimes you have to accept a kind of finality to old age, and a grace that comes with accepting "finiteness" and an end to all things, even the good ones. I'd rather see Star Trek dead and gone, a dignified and loving way, than to sit through vomitous sequels until the end of time.

Sic transit gloria Trekkie.

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