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Mr. Gabler must have his head in the sand (or some other dark place) to blame the current atmosphere in politics on George Bush. Does he not hear what the left side of the isle is saying, all the wild remarks and personal attacks.
And as for weather the right wingers will accept Mel Gibson, I am conservative and like Mel Gibson I don't think I will ever forget or forgive him. The things he said and the way he behaved says volumes about the man. I think this is a good time for "Mad Max Returns To the Thunderdome Down Under" and stays there!
You know it's coming. If Gibson's lawyers don't use Ambien as a defense, he really is fucked cuz his lawyers have been in a coma for the past year or so.
Mel The Great Christian Gibson,is anti-Semite and anti-Hindu!So what?
So is everybody!!Lets burn all the Jews and the Hindus, and the Buddhists!!Thats what Christ teaches!!
The only difference between Bin Laden and Mel Christian Gibson is that Bin Laden hates and bombs, and Mel, hates, drinks, and then makes hate filled anti-Jews-Hindu-Bhuddhist movies.Oh, and of course they both have a salt and pepper beard.
Mel you made Jesus proud of you, just as Bin Laden made allah proud of him.
For the rest of us, non-muslims and non-Christians(you know the expendible, Jews,Hindus,Bhuddists etc), may Krishna bless them and protect them, because they need the protection, as either Bin Laden will bomb them or Mel will unleash Christian lynch mobs on them.
Gibson is not a Christian. Nothing he says or does reflects any of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. He's a bigot, and a bad actor. May he be buggered by a throng of long-donged aborigines.
Let's not forget that there are Christians that do not hate, have little time for partisan politics and want to live at peace with the world. I agree that much of the evangelical Christian world has a political agenda but please let it be clear that there are Christians who do not.
Not all "evangelical" Christians believe that the return of the Jews to Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy. Not all Evangelicals believe in a literal eternal damnation nor do they welcome it for the Jews (or anyone else.) Salvation is the result of individual relationship between a person and God. What man can pass divine judgement on another man, Jewish, Christian or otherwise?
The Bible teaches that those who love God are "spiritual Jews"; neither successors nor oppressors but brothers. We worship the same God, have the same spiritual forefathers and we hope for the same promise.
The author of this article writes as though he has only heard of Christianity through a filter and has never had any direct experience. As a result, his article only presents shadows of Christianity, replete with the shallowness of popular culture. Christianity is not what you see on television or hear from moral pundits. Apparently Christians are not the only individuals who see through a glass, darkly.
Mel Gibson is an idiot but Neal Gabler launches into space by imputing all things evil in this country to GWB, by default, and then to conservative folks, in general. This hateful article relies on a high-brow argument in which the progressive types are somehow entitled to the high ground in the culture wars and everyone else resorts to deceptive tactics such as mislabeling Jews as liberals. But, with some minor exceptions, Jews are liberal. What is wrong with that assessment and why is knowing that fact so evil? Instead, a careful look at the past 25 years will reveal that progressives have been aggresively promoting a virulent form of secularism that is designed to replace the universal desire for a liberal and secular society in which religious and cultural views are equally respected. The root cause is simple: most progressives disdain any argument that is based on spiritual or faith-based values. Such matters are a threat to the ultra-rational worldview of secular humanism that dominate today's progressive mentality. Anything that reminds the progressive of his or her Judeo-Christian roots is attacked as "reactionary".
Neal Gabler is undermining the very foundation that he believes he is protecting and that is a consensus worldview that accepts a historical Judeo-Christian influence on our current thinking and that all sides have a stake in its success.
This article is nonsense. It does not contain any logical arguments at all, just a string of wild overgeneralizations and unsupported accusations. It doesn't sound as though Neal Gabler has seen The Passion of the Christ, in which case his opinions about it are just wasted words. (No, you can NOT make an informed decsion that a movie/book/song is anti-semitic/racist/sexist based upon things that other people say about it. That just creates more of the fact-free bellowing that already pollutes our televisions.)
I am a secular liberal who is definitely not an expert on evangelical Christians. I do, however, know something about the political religious right because they regularly go on television and explain their views. While there is some overlap, these are two seperate groups of people. Want some proof? Take a look at what happened to Ralph Reed in the Georgia primary.
Neither of these groups is going to embrace Mel Gibson. The evangelical Christians may pray for him and wish him well, but they already know that he is not one of them. His actual religious beliefs - the theology of the church that he belongs to - are vastly different from the religious beliefs of evangelical Christians, whose churches teach a very different theology.
As for the political religious right, they are not going to try to make a martyr of someone who got caught driving drunk. Neither secular liberals nor the political religious right are in favor of drunk driving.
I don't know how things are going to work out for Mel Gibson. But if they work out well it will be in spite of, and not because of, the anti-semitic comments that he made when he was arrested.