...wow, Will, who'da thought you could be wrong about everything -- including my gender?!?

As for your list, you have one movie that deals with Orthodox Jewish life, and one TV show that deals with Mormonism.

Then you mention Curb your Enthusiasm, which has also gone after Catholics and just about every other religion, and is a perfect example of an equal-opportunity, genuine satire. Ditto for The Life of Brian, and South Park. They go after everybody, to their credit.

The challenge was to come up with 10 MOVIES about a specific Protestant sect and and 10 about Orthodox Judaism. (It's quite easy to come up with 10 about Catholicism, along with TV shows, plays, songs, articles, celebrity rants, etc.) I thought it was understood, but apparently not by you, that these should be movies where these groups were the sole recipients of attacks--not just part of scattershot religious satire.

You came up with one TV show specifically about Mormons, and one movie about Orthodoxy Judaism, which didn't portray anybody as a raving wacko or criminal, although yes, it was certainly an unflattering portrayal generally. Your math is as bad as your "satire." You also seem to lump all Protestants together in a single blur. Apparently your ignorance extends beyond Catholicism.

A mornic ACTOR says stupid and hateful things and Gabler can't wait to tie it into Bush. I support Bush and am an atheist. I won't be running to see anymore Gibson movies. And I think Gabler will find that Americans, republican and conservative, will make him pay in the same way.

Gabler should go back to reviewing movies since his poliical analysis sucks.

"What happened then would not happen now."

The last Magdalene Asylum laundry closed in 1996. That's not exactly Cold War, pre-Vatican II. That was ten years ago.

I love when an article prompts a large (and harshly opinionated) response.

First of all, some people seem to want to write off Mel's comments because he was drunk. Drinking alcohol lowers people's self-senors and inhibitions. The actions that people take and, especially the things that they say, when drunk are usually their true thoughts and feelings that don't get expressed when sober because we all have self-senors. If a person becomes very angry when drunk, that usually means they have a lot of repressed anger that is not getting expressed in a healthy way. So, to write-off what he said because he was drunk, isn't acceptable.

There may or may not be a lot of articles about religion, but this story is about religion because Mel is a devout Catholic, who doesn't believe that Vatican II was legimate and has used his faith to deal with his addictions. That last statement sounds very familiar to a certain President. Mel has also had a "rumored" history of anti-Semitism. Like it or not, his current behavior makes news.

As for Catholic Bigotry in the media, I don't see it. I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic schools, but am no longer a practicing Catholic. I personally hold no bitterness towards the Catholic church and loved a lot of the traditions growing up, but when I got to college and learned more of the history of Religion in the world and the Catholic Church, particularly, I started to question my own faith. I have met, in my life, a lot of lapsed Catholics who went through the same process and many of them work in the entertainment industry. For some writers, writing about what you know is the most fulfilling and easiest thing to do, so you may have writers writing about the Catholic Church and their own personal experiences in it. Writing about this history isn't bigotry. Bigotry is to say that "all Jews are bankers" or "Jews are responsible for all wars" or "all Catholics are Irish and drunks". I didn't see this article as being anti-Catholic or about too much about religon.

I did pick-up a lot of projection in the postings.

I grew up in the 60's and 70's in a first-ring suburb populated by Jews fleeing Detroit, pretty much a middle-class shtetl consisting of Reformed or secular Jews. The public schools were probably 98% Jewish. In those days, and more or less until his death, my father insisted that the outside world was overwhelmingly antisemetic. I assumed he was paranoid.

I left my homogeous community at 18. None of my college friends, even those who'd never been around Jews, exhibited antisemetic tendencies. In grad school, I met and married a Catholic (at this time, "mixed marriages" with non-Jews outnumbered marriages within the faith). The only antisemetic-ish remarks I've overheard throughout my life have been unfortunate idioms like "he jewed them down on the price," or descriptions like "you know, the Jewish guy."

My adult life, and a good chunk of my working life, has mostly been lived in academia. And within my circles, I have never heard a racist or antisemetic remark. So it shocked the hell out of me when in the last decade or so it somehow became acceptable to express ethnic and racial prejudices in the "real world."

And I'm just not getting this. When did this become socially acceptable? I don't delude myself that any of us don't harbor some knee-jerk ethnic or racial prejudices, no matter how small. But I believed that we fight against this, and strive to be non-biased. How does Mel Gibson doing a series on the Holocaust get into development? How is it OK for Michael Medved to gloss over the antisemeitism of Passion of the Christ, because it promotes good moral values?

I always thought my father's "everybody's out to get us" attitude was crap. But it seems that a small proportion of "them" might be, and it's OK to express and defend this attitude. And that it's also acceptable to express racial prejudice, in word or deed (New Orleans, anyone?). Boy, this sucks.

True to his faith, it seems as though Gradysu has climbed up on the cross, because of all the bigoted satire from Hollywood--and his fellow catholics-- and since he feels so persecuted, I will gladly accept his challenge and will give you ten anti-religious films/tv shows that critique/make fun of some faith other than catholicism.

1. "A Price Above Rubies", deals with opressive treatment of women in orthodox jewish community.

2. Several episodes of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" brutally make fun of Othrodox Jews, specifically the "Ski Lift" episode, and the one where Larry thinks that the Gina Gershon character wants to fuck through a hole in the sheet.

3. "Orgazmo", non-stop anti-Mormom bigotry from the South Park guys.

4. "Saved", Mandy Moore and Co. rip into evangelical mega-church youth groups, very bigoted.

5. "Big Love" on HBO, not all Mormoms are polygamists!

6. "Leap of Faith", Steve Martin's prejudiced portrayal of faith healers.

7. "The Skeleton Key", hardly a realistic portrayal of Voodoo ritual/faith.

8. "The Life of Brian", you can nitpick that this film makes fun of Catholics too, but it also has plenty to offend jews and protestants alike.

9. "Elmer Gantry", the original Pat Robertson.

10. I'm going to have my final entry dedicated to literally every Hollywood action movie with any Muslim characters, "True Lies", "Delta Force", and pretty much every other Chuck Norris film. So buck up! there is plently of religious hatred around, and it's all fashionable and funny! Does anyone else have any other additions to the list?