People are going to build a narrative around what Obama said, trying to paint him as an elitist, as much as they possibly can get away with

Like it's hard.

for instance that he decided to live in South Chicago with his constituents instead of having Resko get him and Mrs. Hussein-Vulgar a big house.

Like everyone who supports him is a Bay area leftist or a starry-eyed college student.

Obama even LOOKS like a girl.

In all solemnity for a moment, this is EXACTLY why those of us who have been around a while told you he didn't have the experience to run against the GOP and why you needed a veteran.

In one slip of the tongue Obama just completely blew any prospect of even picking up five or six states. And his prospects were pretty slim anyway.

Yes. And it's as transparent as you think too. The GOP owned media WANTED him to be the candidate. Word is Rove saw him coming as far back as 2004.

Meanwhile all of red America already thinks he has "ties to terrorists" - you know the only states he won the Democratic primaries in.

It's obvious to me that libs are at least as stupid as Rush Limbaugh has told his audience they were for 20 years. At least.

For all the intensity of professed "feminist" Obama supporters, it's interesting to note that I know not one single non-black female Democrat or indepedent who is supporting him once I disconnect here. Not one.

This is some of the reason I admit I've strongly questioned the true identity of the most fervent "feminist" Obama supporters on the message boards. (yes, Virginia that's thinly veiled code for "most obnoxious").

The fact is white, female voters, not liberals, not moveon.org, not blacks are in fact the Democrats most reliable base. And they are feeling very very alienated. The words I hear over and over is that they "will not have Obama shoved down my throat". I believe them because it's my sentiments exactly.

Like it or not if the "net roots", moveon.org, etc could carry elections with their excitement and fundraising abilities we would have swept up in 2004 - instead of their not being instrumental in one single gain. Mercifully, Rahm Emmanuel and Charlie Schumer were able to push they and Dean aside some in 2006. But in 2008 here they are again insisting we lose gloriously.

John McCain meanwhile is sensibly making headway into the gender gap. I don't like McCain, but like a lot of Democrats, I'm asking myself if there's room in a party for me if there's no room for a solid progressive (that actually DID something for regular Democrats in her life) such as Hillary Rodham Clinton.

After this glorious defeat I doubt I will consider myself Democrat anymore. I'm not interested in being a party of permanent minority status whose only role is to blog and wring our hands helplessly at each Republican atrocity. The nastiness of the hard left and their INSISTANCE on losing gloriously every time is something I'm (finally) over. I have kids to feed after all.

So don't think that Clinton supporters don't get this and don't have sophisticated thinking about why we are supporting who we are supporting. Perhaps we want to stop the foolishness and the wishful thinking for once and get shit done.

Standing Ovation

As I just noted, I'm tired of being trapped in a party with childish idealists who would rather lose gloriously than win, however cynically and get something done. Some of us have KIDS to think about.

This isn't feminism, we just don't believe that Obama's candidacy will end like 'It's a Wonderful Life'. Time to stop putting our faith in one man who's going to provide bold change, er..., how many times have we pulled that lever?

Again, thank you. Call me old fashioned but I believe the best predictor of of someones ability to get something done is to look at their past history of doing so.

Therefore from Springfield to Washington, I'm just not seeing a whole lot of reason to get wrapped up in a childish frenzy on claptrap about "hope" and certainly not, above all now, some decidedly undemonstratable ability to "unite".

Why don't you save your lengthy, congratulatory diatribes for AFTER Obama is inaugerated, already.

I'm personally not seeing how that's going to happen since I don't know a single person that isn't black or an urban liberal white young guy that supports him. So now, with a complicit media, having crippled our experienced and viable candidate and offended her supporters, it'll be amazing if they even turn out to vote.

I've been following Lind since he wrote "Up From Conservatism" where he described in great detail how the Conservatives took America and how they work. He knows of what he speaks to say the least.

If you don't listen to him, than you're just even more out of it than I already thought.

That's my biggest problem with the "LALLALALLALA I can't hear you" Obama supporters, frankly. You disregard the warnings and the advice of the experienced as if they don't know anything like a young rebelling child.

And I'm betting that the same people who think a Dem who lost by a full 17 percentage points in California and New Jersey, who demonstratably can't win New York, Florida or Ohio (and Pennsylvania without a lot of help from rightwingers who deliberately voted in the Democratic primary) are the same people who think the anecdotal evidence from some alleged Obama loving "trailer park" dude scientifically points to a sure-fire win across Red America -besides the fact that near every kid in the Ohio Valley now is talking about Obama's "terrorist ties" they "heard about".

Obama liberals don't give a s. about science though - just all drivel, vitriol and emotion. The days when Liberals were the educated party are clearly as far in the past as the days the Republicans were high class.