Many people believe that Obama has vision and a sense of social justice, and will surround himself with good advisors to make up for his lack of experience

for a while. Then reality hits them in the face. So when do you wake up?

I'd have a stronger faith in Obama's sense of justice if he had actually DONE something with it for the worst off in South Chicago, besides doing nothing at all except getting his wife a big raise and some contracts, himself a fancy house and a big political career.

Now he wants to be President with less than a 2 year bout in the Senate for which he didn't show up for the lion's share of it.

How nice.

Many people believe that Obama ... will surround himself with good advisors to make up for his lack of experience

Yah, that's what they said about Bush. So he surrounded himself with experienced friendly Republicans like Cheney and Powell and Condolizzard and we all saw how well that worked. out.

I thought you already admitted you were voting for Obama because he's (supposedly) black and didn't you go on some earlier diatribe about how after Oprah hoofed her weighty carcass for him in Iowa and you were explaining how blacks were just so overwhelmed to feel like you had a perhaps viable black candidate (I mean he's black when it suits him and white when that's convenient, but whatever).

Now I admit I don't know all about that black thing stuff, but it seems to me if I WERE black I'd be sensible enough to vote for people who had a record of delivering for them instead of someone who was half-black that didn't.

So good to hear from you Shawn. You must have missed out on the stock market collapse in early 2000's due to the Fed not cooling the market in the late 90s to reduce the asset inflation.

You're right. I DID miss out on it. So did Dow. Maybe you meant the crash of 97, about 3 years before Bill sealed up the nomination. Then again maybe you meant the stock market anemicism after 12 years of Reagan/Bush that really didn't pick up until Clinton's budget and economic policy had been in effect a couple of years. (After all, it wasn't EASY to close those deficits and make your Republican friends shell up their first tax dollar in almost 12 years).

Then again maybe you don't know what in the hell you're talking about. That's where my money is.

Hell, when Bill left office the stock market was over 10,000 - well above the approximate 6500 he inherited.

You know, Unc, the longer you spew and trash the Clinton's with your psuedo-economic twaddle the more you sound like a frickin Republican...

and by the way, you forgot to call me a klansman again. ;-)

And Bush was successful, for the REPUBLICANS. No, it didn't work out so well for the rest of us

My point exactly. I'm not seeing how Obama surrounding himself with Resko, Axelrod, etc, is going to be any different - at least if his history is anything to go by.

I can't pretend to know Richardson's reasoning, probably promised some cabinet position or the other or implied VP. but I think it's a stretch to overstate Richardson's accomplishments. He performed adequately. No stellarly. But adequately as Sec. Energy. And he's been a pisspoor Governor of NM - granted he's had Bush's economy to contend with.

Anyway, my guess is what Richardson did was defy the wishes of the hispanic voters in his own state and that it's going to cost him his office in Santa Fe next election after Obama goes down as big as I think he's going to.

Hillary Clinton isn't campaigning among netheads or cinephiles. She's campaigning among people for whom the character of Rocky Balboa is a symbol of a certain kind of stick-to-it heroism. That symbology works on an emotional level, not a cerebral one

Oh? Was there something "celebral" about logging into six different accounts or so to spew off psuedo-economic twaddle without citations, to engage in vulgarity (really classy stuff like calling people "Kotex", and that's the stuff I'd even repeat too), endorsing reverse racism, and elementary reverse psychology.

The people in the heartland are smarter than you think. They know Obama is a fraud who only appeals to biggots and snobby elitist liberals.

Surely now you can come up with the electoral math that shows a decisive victory for the Nobama over John McCain - y'know the stuff that will decided the election that so far, none of yer all obnoxi cohorts and trolls have yet to produce.

See that's the problem with you poor dimwits. The election ain't going to be decided on the talkboard of a leftie-lefty website. George Soros learned that very expensively in 2004.

Do catch up.

certainly something the Nobama's demonstrate, but this is on the man himself.

www.audacityofhypocrisy.com

The worst of the sexist attacks on Hillary's entire campaign have come from the left, not the right. Shills like Olberman and Axelrod and thousands of their minature ugly heads voicing off all over the message boards and blogs have been real eye opening for me.

And we thought weight was the last acceptable prejudice. Not hardly.

Anyway, suffice to say I'll never again mistake "liberal" men as allies to feminism. Nor "liberal" women either for a large part.

Guess we'll see how well this works out for Obama.