I just knew when I saw Glenn Greenwald's usual tripe of a headline that the thread would in moments evolve into garbage, with every middle-aged bagger who would like to sleep with a woman without strings and ever woman trying to prove her liberal credentials both joining in a a chorus about this "victimless crime" and it's need for legalization. (typically blathering about completely disparate representations of the true industry, such as the supposed xanadu of prostitution in the Netherland).

It's all enough to make you want to go join the religious right.

I'm going to inconveniently remind you of a few things:

1. Legal or otherwise prostitution as it exists in any measure around the globe is found where women are the most socially and economically depressed. It's found where there is the most disparity and income inequality and where there is no hope.
2. It's true. think about it. Calcutta-like poverty in the Carribean, ridden with horrible disease. Blocks of dirt poor women in Thailand selling their bony little butts to pay for their parents to eat, women who hate sex, only see it as a commodity and prey on men. Thousands and thousands of little children in Pakistan having sex with western men who fly in specifically to do so. Korean women forced into prostitution and having to give the money to their husbands who beat the crap out of them daily. The desperate women of the collapsed East German economy having to come on to comparatively affluent West German commuters at rest-stops for quickies. Bronx crackgals looking for business in Manhattan. And of course scores and scores of Indian and African prostitutes truly having to sell themselves for a bowl of rice and with HIV rates approaching 80 or 90%. If not higher. And of course no access to medical care either.

   Excuse me, does anyone see glamour and liberation in any of these situations? But it's all legal!

3. There's NOTHING pretty about prostitution where it exists in significant measure legal or otherwise. Even when we scatch the veneer of 4000 dollar/hour service providers it's ugly stuff.

   Naturally we'll hear the same tired "liberated" woman excuse and how well these women are doing as if all North American gals in the business were high-priced internet service providers rather than street whores and airport area massage parlor workers. Regardless, their apologists and patrons in all collective morons, just insist it's the prostitute taking advantage of the man. We should believe it's those liberated hookers have the power, not the johns!

   What a nice little delusion. How many women do YOU know that can shell out 3500 bucks a pop to get laid? Or even 150$

   Plus, even for those botoxed, plastic Barbies of Empireland you'd better believe a closet full of Jimmy Shoo's and real perfume ain't going to make up for a lifetime of dysfunctional relationships and never ever being able to trust a man.. not to mention the stress of diseases AND clients that can kill her.

4. No folks, prostitution is just not a "victimless" crime. It's not pretty. It's not glamorous and it's is always accompanied by poverty, gender inequality and above all, societal dysfunctionalism . Where it exists in big amounts, legal or not, you find astronomically increased rates of crime, predatory behavior and disease. And just ... ugly stuff.
5. In healthy, progressive societies people have sex because they WANT to. Because two consenting individuals are going to enjoy it. It isn't an outlet for some guy to ask a woman he doesn't know to do "unsafe" things or for women to do because there's nothing else they can do that will pay nearly as well.

   Today CNN cites that 1 in 4 teenaged girls already have a sexually transmitted disease. Therefore I have to guess it's not that hard to get laid non-commercially and that we don't need to add catalysts to disease transmission. Guys, really, if you can't get as easily as it seems you SHOULD be able to, then fix yourselves up a little. Read a book instead of hitting worm-ridden porn sites, buy some clothes that actually flatter you, and hit the gym.

   Oh, but wait, you don't WANT to do the work and hit the gym or invest in yourself. Of course not. Of course too you LIKE being able to fly down to the Domincan Republic all Rush Limbaugh style and get a blowjob for 30 bucks from some terribly desperate little thing.

   Well, I guess sacrifices must be made then. Try not to take it too hard when it's YOUR daughter being humilated in the public arena, gets HIV from her philandering husband, or even ends up in the "business" herself to stay alive. For a while.

Just Like Republicans. By the day I'm certain Karl Rove is on their team.

So let's just cut to the chase. Mrs. Clinton was "Billary" , a radical feminist wearing the pants and running the WhiteHouse when that's convenient, and when it isn't then she was watering pots of flowers and baking cookies.

I think we can all scroll to the end of the thread on this note.