If you consider what the Republicans were able to do with the fact that the Clintons actually LOST money on some land deal in Arkansas (the same can not be said of dozens of Arkansian Republican schisters) it doesn't take much imagination to figure out what's going to happen as Resko sits behind bars after helping Obama buy a house, getting sweetheart deals from him and his being closely associated with a Syrian Muslim schister indicted for fraud.

I'd alos like to see an accounting of Mrs. BH Obana's pay in accordance with Obama's rise to the legilsature. Plus so far the arrogant one's dealings with Walmart appear to have much more to do with her OWN financies than with trying to coax them into black friendly or progressive values of any kind.

To me the Obamateur's pathetic attempt to toss the kitchen sink at Hillary on this long has-been matter, will only backfire in allowing the press to say that he is the one who opened the matter of looking into his own finances and very very eyebrow raising connections with established criminals.

Of late, I've been tempted to think there's a coordinated effort involved, because so many of these messages closely parrot one another in content and theme (SHOW US YOUR TAX RETURNS, etc). The style and level of writing in most of these messages has changed noticeably in the past few weeks and is certainly not typical of the average NYTimes reader

Exactly what the Limbots used to do and their writing style had the exact same illiteracy. I still believe that this is a bamboozled effort of Rove's and that the Obama campaign foolishly mistook the enemy of their enemy for a friend. Which is anothr reason I don't believe he is at all interested in the welfare of the Democratic Party, it's people, or progressive values. As if his divisive campaign weren't enough to convince one.

Yes, LBL, really, I'm sure the non-event tripe you cite like getting some legislation passed for potential racial profiling in traffic violations was a real real real big comfort to single black mom's living behind the poverty line in South Chicago that had never owned a fkg car in their lives.

I mean really really, I'm sure the stuff you cite that Obama was supposedly able to accomplish all by his lonesome of course in a SOLIDLY DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATURE was worth so much more to blacks living behind the poverty line than the 33% raise the Clinton's brought.

Since you're deciding to throw the late kitchen sink of brown hogwash at HRC instead of having that meaningful conversation you promised please answer the following:

1. Why did Barrack Obama award millions of dollars of taxpayer money to a Syrian famous for ripping off his investors?
2. Why didn't Barrack Obama stand up for his constituents instead of Rezko, as Rezko abandoned the project and even turned off their heat?
3. Why did Obama solicit Rezko, by now famously established as a fraudulent to procure high-end luxury property for him?
4. Why did Barrack Obama use his legislative position to influence the pay scale of his wife?
5. Why haven't Barrack and Michelle been proud to be American before now?
6. What foreign poolicy experience does Barrack Obama have, short of visiting Somalia and dresssing in Muslim garb?
7. Obama was caught deliberately trying to incite racism into the campaign in South CArolina. Why do you feel that racism against whites is acceptable but not against blacks.
8. Many people believe that Obama's posturing when he had no skin in it, about Iraq, was more of an effort to solicit funds from wealthy Syrian and Iranian donors in Illinois than any good judgement call. How does he respond to this?
9. John Edwards also "voted for Iraq" (aka voted for preauth to intelligent people) and John Edwards wasn't even representing Ground Zero territory (aka NYC) as Hillary was.

   Yet one of your particularly obnoxious clones/sigs/aliass is insisting he's a John Edwards guy. Or was. Or something. Why do you give Edwards a pass to "vote for Iraq" while holding it against a woman whose job it was to protect the city most likely to be attacked by Iraqian terrorists.

10. Obama has done NOTHING for poor blacks (or whites) in Illinois at all even in a Democratic environment. Why do you hold hope so ridiculously that he can do so in a predominantly Republican environment.

    well, we can start here but I won't hold my breath.

You won't get any vitriol from me. You are by all appearences exactly where I am. Fed up and resigned after 30 years that the left is never ever going to learn from it's mistakes.

I wish the emotional children here would listen to the voice of experience and those of us who have seen all this before and where it got us. But I have given up hope on that too.

Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone though.

That 33% number you keep repeating is 100% FICTION. Follow the link I posted, find the real number, and then you can sit at the big folks' table and join in a real discussion.

Why do you insist on doing this? How does it help you to delude yourself like this? It won't get Barrack Obama elected and it certainly won't help blacks. Are YOU the Republican you are accusing everyone else of? You didn't provide any such thing or citation for it. But the citation I provided you was from a BLACK LIBERAL website, and provided additional references to columns by both Paul Krugman and the Statistical Abstract of the United States.

If you truly ARE a Democrat you should in fact read the message from teh poster a few below citing his/her experience on the McGovern campaign. And try to learn something.