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Tuesday, October 6, 2009 02:25 PM
Original article: Care for a Lysol douche?

And Palmolive soap was made of palm and olive oils...

...rather than an array of ingredients we can't pronounce. Products evolve.

So, did it not occur to Broadsheet that if Lysol was marketed as a douche in the mid 20th century, it perforce had a non-caustic formulation at the time? And quite a different meaning as a brand?

Are we so eager to identify patriarchal oppressions as to believe that marketers would think it in their own interest to encourage American women to cleanse their delicate tissue with harsh disinfectants of the sort used in today's kitchens and bathrooms?

Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:13 AM

@Glenn re:Natalie Maines

It was the unhinged lynch mob fury provoked by Natalie Maines' innocuous statement that she was "embarrassed" that George W. Bush was from her home state.

"Just so you know," says singer Natalie Maines, "we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2003/mar/12/artsfeatures.popandrock

The reaction was indeed disproportional, but "ashamed" is far more provocative than "embarrassed." If you're characterizing Maines' words as innocuous and the mob's fury unhinged, a correct(ed) quote is imperative.

Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:01 PM

@Betzee re: Natalie Maines

I don't disagree with your assessment of the original controversy. But in misremembering Natalie's words, Glenn softened them, while characterizing the public reaction as "unhinged."

Glenn in fact inadvertently turned Maines' statement "innocuous." His argument will only be stronger if he's willing to apply it to the actual words for which Maines apologized.

(And, on last-minute check, I see he has done so.)

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 06:15 AM

It's the NOBEL Peace prize...

...not the Noble Peace Prize.

EconCCX (corrections troll)

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:15 PM

I was sure somebody was going to pick up Will Saletan's Tuesday piece...

...and hand his head to him, much like the character in his logo. Broadsheet used to run Saletan Alerts, as I recall.

Having sex at 13 is a bad idea. But if you're pubescent, it might be, in part, your bad idea. Having sex with a 13-year-old, when you're 40, is scummy. (Personally, I'd be stricter. If I ran a college, I'd discipline professors for sleeping with freshmen.) But it doesn't necessarily make you the kind of predator who has to be locked up. A guy who goes after 5-year-old girls is deeply pathological. A guy who goes after a womanly body that happens to be 13 years old is failing to regulate a natural attraction. That doesn't excuse him. But it does justify treating him differently.

(He's rolled the argument back a little today.)

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:16 PM

Sorry, Saletan link is here:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/humannature/archive/2009/10/14/polanski-revisited.aspx

and at the sig.

Friday, October 16, 2009 03:30 AM

And if she did...

...she has no entitlement to purely gracious responses from among an audience with no barriers to entry. The "Outrage Industry," which serves an important purpose in documenting dangerous societal and media trends, too often makes bank from a handful of anonymous outliers.

And thin-skinned Meghan has demonstrated herself unworthy of leadership. For now.

Friday, October 30, 2009 02:11 PM

The ultimate bully

here are two things I believe in fervently and will defend strenuously: Reproductive freedom and the right of all citizens to vote however they damn well please without being bullied and shamed by those who disagree.

Kate, that's an expression of totalitarian disdain for freedom of expression. Call it "bully and shame", call it "keyboard rape," just take a deep fucking breath and understand precisely what it is you are advocating: the right to an environment free of contrary views. There's a hateful label for this brand of feminism, and you have surely earned it this day.

Friday, October 30, 2009 03:24 PM

@JamesLeask

Kate's rhetorical trick is to take an unexceptionable act, "blogging and advocating," and recast it as "bullying and shaming" so as to manufacture a seemingly reasonable prohibition. But she is quite literally advocating a right to vote that encompasses a freedom from mass expression. Excepting her own, presumably. She's describing a statement of principle in a public forum as if it were an act of individual harassment. No reasonable person supports "bullying and shaming." Thus Kate deliberately conflates these with acts that are at the root of our liberty.

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