Guess I'm hiding it pretty well! ;-)

will do anything in their power to make sure that their will never be peace in the ME. They don't want peace. War and war mongering are their reason for being.

Whoever works contrary to their principles [and I use the term lightly] is either slimed out of office or ends up dead before their time.

hmmmm.....

You forgot to cite a source which supports your assertion.

The ACLU is not the NAACP.

“[…] Reflect on the following. The President goes on national TV, and, in a speech to both houses of Congress, [...] flat out tells the American people that the country, under the highest authorities of the time, committed tens of thousands of acts of criminal torture and CIDT, and that under treaty and the law of the land, he is obligated to answer these crimes with the rule of law. Thereupon, he states[…]” –ondelette

At this point, it seems possible that it would be nearly impossible for such a person [if there is such a person] to become The President.

She was probably hired precisely because she could not do the Ombudsman's job as it was previously thought to be defined.

"Ombudsman" was just another of those "vague" terms [like "Cruel, Inhuman and Degrading Treatment"] that needed to be clarified and redefined, and she is one of the tools being used for that process.

Shepard: "[...] But no matter how many distinguished groups -- the International Red Cross, the U.N. High Commissioners -- say waterboarding is torture, there are responsible people who say it is not. Former President Bush, former Vice President Cheney, their staff and their supporters obviously believed that waterboarding terrorism suspects was necessary to protect the nation's security. [...]"

The International Red Cross and the UN High Commissioners ARE the people "responsible" for calling torture torture.

Bush and the Cheney Gang, their staff and their supporters [said they] believed that Saddam had WMD, too, despite the fact that the "responsible" people [UNMOVIC] kept saying they were finding no evidence to support that claim.

That belief worked out really well for US, too.

Well said. This has been on my mind as well.

May 7, 2004 - CIA Office of Inspector General [John Helgerson] issues the report on its review of CIA “Counterterrorism, Detention and Interrogation Activities, September 2001-October 2003” [54] Jane Mayer says: “[Helgerson] was “called in by Cheney to discuss his tough report […] proving that Cheney knew even then of the allegations […] The report had been described as very disturbing and full of terrible descriptions of mistreatment.” Scott Horton: “it appears as a result of these [Helgerson/Cheney] meetings the IG’s report was simply shut down” [55] and “All the indicators are that the CIA’s inspector general found that the extraordinary renditions program was unlawful and he demanded accounting for it. […]Freeing up the inspector general to finish his review and render a final report would be an obvious next step.” [58] For Richard Clarke’s views on Rendition see [59] On March 2, 2009, a letter to the judge overseeing FOIA litigation reveals that ninety-two CIA interrogation video tapes were destroyed, and that this information is included in the CIA Office of Inspector General’s Special Review Report [111] Helgerson’s report was opposed by Scott Muller, Counsel to the Clandestine Service. Muller attended a meeting at the WH with Gonzales, Addington and [NSC lawyer] Bellinger, in which possible tape destruction was discussed. [119]

May 10, 2005 - Memo OLC [from Bradbury] to unknown recipient concludes that CIA interrogation methods are legal, and based on information about actual CIA interrogations; provides explicit authorization to barrage terror suspects with a combination of painful physical and psychological tactics; This memo is released on April 16, 2009. One of the changes from previous memos is that it requires a tracheotomy kit to be present while a prisoner is being waterboarded. [159] [47] In an e-mail dated April 28, 2005, Deputy Attorney General Comey opposes the conclusions in this memo. The e-mail is leaked to the NYT on June 6, 2009. [151][152] See also April 22, 26, 27, May 30 and 31, 2005.

Sources:

http://www.webdsi.com/jebbie/tline.html

Thanks for that information. Would you mind telling me if you are a doctor?

April 16, 2002 - “Dr. Bruce Jessen, the senior SERE psychologist at JPRA, circulated a draft exploitation plan to JPRA Commander Colonel Randy Moulton and other senior officials at the agency. The contents of that plan remains classified but Dr. Jessen’s initiative is indicative of the interest of JPRA’s senior leadership in expanding the agency’s role.” (DD) According to Jane Mayer, Jessen and colleague James Mitchell “reverse engineered” SERE training techniques. They also used the “learned helplessness” theory of Martin Seligman from his 1960’s experiments on dogs. [Mitchell is later identified as the CIA contractor who used these techniques in the first two months of Abu Zubaydah’s interrogation. [156] Seligman spoke about his theories to a high-level group, organized by CIA officials, at the Navy’s SERE school in San Diego during the spring of 2002. [55] DoD General Counsel Jim Haynes had solicited this information in December of 2001. [96] At a meeting just before 9/11/01 military psychologists were visited by former APA President Joseph Metarrazzo, whose words “crystallized their sense of mission”. They determined that their “marching orders” were to “help America and use our skills in any way we possibly can as a psychologist”, according to military psychologist and SERE instructor Bryce Lefever. [137] Lefever’s views are rebutted by fellow psychologist Stephen Soldz in “APA Ethics Policymaker Clarifies Defense of Torture; Reveals APA-Pentagon Link”. [145] APA created a group it called PENS [Psychological Ethics and National Security] It was kept secret from most of the membership of the APA. PEN’s members were nominated by the military and approved by the APA. Lefever was a member. [144] For more on this, see [145] See September 2003 for MG Geoffrey Miller’s internal report establishing a new role for health-care advisers.

Sources:

http://www.webdsi.com/jebbie/tline.html

Andy Worthington

http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/07/01/when-torture-kills-ten-murders-in-us-prisons-in-afghanistan/

Thanks for the links.

n/t