I was just reading the MLK speech Glenn refers to in the new post. The discussion here seems to echo this speech in some ways. Here are some excerpts:

America, the richest and most powerful nation in the world, can well lead the way in this revolution of values. There is nothing, except a tragic death wish, to prevent us from reordering our priorities, so that the pursuit of peace will take precedence over the pursuit of war. There is nothing to keep us from molding a recalcitrant status quo with bruised hands until we have fashioned it into a brotherhood.

A genuine revolution of values means in the final analysis that our loyalties must become ecumenical rather than sectional. Every nation must now develop an overriding loyalty to mankind as a whole in order to preserve the best in their individual societies.

We are now faced with the fact that tomorrow is today. We are confronted with the fierce urgency of now. In this unfolding conundrum of life and history there is such a thing as being too late. Procrastination is still the thief of time. Life often leaves us standing bare, naked and dejected with a lost opportunity. The "tide in the affairs of men" does not remain at the flood; it ebbs. We may cry out deperately for time to pause in her passage, but time is deaf to every plea and rushes on. Over the bleached bones and jumbled residue of numerous civilizations are written the pathetic words: "Too late." There is an invisible book of life that faithfully records our vigilance or our neglect. "The moving finger writes, and having writ moves on..." We still have a choice today; nonviolent coexistence or violent co-annihilation.

Shall we say the odds are too great? Shall we tell them the struggle is too hard? Will our message be that the forces of American life militate against their arrival as full men, and we send our deepest regrets? Or will there be another message, of longing, of hope, of solidarity with their yearnings, of commitment to their cause, whatever the cost? The choice is ours, and though we might prefer it otherwise we must choose in this crucial moment of human history.

I found the following recent posts by eriposte at The Left Coaster to be very informative about US relations with India and Pakistan.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/013738.php

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/013747.php

I remember.

Still, each time there seems to be a thaw, it's still time to hope. Ian Paisley attributed the success in Northern Ireland to the South Africans, from his point of view. He said they were the ones who convinced him that you have to sit down at the table with your enemies, because you don't need to negotiate peace with your friends.

So, it CAN happen...maybe we can catch the thaw.

What Regan giveth Bush taketh away. All in the name of maintaining that all-important boogeyman and the illusion of success against said boogeyman."

Thanks for showing the rest of the recipe. It would be great if this particular souffle flopped sometime.

ps: thanks for the note last night. ;-)

Your link didn't work for me, but I found I could get to it from here:

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=us_torture_abuse

and then clicking on the "Prisoner Abuse in Iraq, Afghanistan" in the upper left where it says

"home>>projects>>Prisoner Abuse in Iraq, Afghanistan"

That's quite a detailed and informative timeline you and your colleagues have there. We are working on one here, too, but it just starts at 9/11/01:

http://www.webdsi.com/jebbie/tline.html

[also linked at signature]

Your timeline was brought to my attention by a commenter [I think it was cabdriver] soon after we first posted ours in Glenn's comment section. One of these days, I'll find the time to check out everything you have there...it's difficult to keep up with everything.

but I wanted to put this out there:

"Kidnapping Trial of C.I.A. Agents Is Suspended by Judge in Italy", June 19, 2007

This is the case of the 2003 kidnapping of an Imam off the street in Italy.

"[...] The imam, Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, known as Abu Omar, said he was sent to Egypt and tortured for four years. He was released in February.[...]"

"As Door Opens for Legal Actions in Chilean Coup, Kissinger Is Numbered Among the Hunted" NYT: 3/28/02

I was just getting some information on the kidnapping and rendition of Imam Abu Omar, when I saw this...

Link at sig.

Thanks for the links,

About the CIA Inspector General Report, if this is the one you're refering to, the ACLU did get a highly recated copy.

January 2003-CIA Inspector General initiates review of CIA terrorist detention and interrogation program.

May 7, 2004-CIA office of the Inspector General releases report:

Special Review (TS???redacted) Counterterrorism, Detention and Interrogation Activities, Sept 2001-October 2003.

http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/052708/052708_Special_Review.pdf

It says “Denied in Full” a lot.