"There are numerous Saudi men who have sexual relationships with youths before they are married or when their wives are pregnant," Jama says. In these cases, having sex with another male is often the only way of having sex at all. Extramarital affairs with women are nearly impossible. "In the West the men in question would be considered gay, but in countries like Saudi Arabia it is harder to categorize them," Jama notes. Most Muslims have trouble understanding the Western concept of "gay identity."

While the United States is far more tolerant of the full expression of human sexuality than Muslim countries, much of the kind of behavior described in the above paragraph about homosexuality in Saudi Arabia could also apply here. There are hundreds if not thousands of married, "straight" men who occasionally or even regularly engage in homosexual sex. The Internet has been a huge boon to them as they are able to control the parameters of their encounters without putting themselves at risk of being found out.

I believe that most instances of homosexual sex in human populations worldwide are engaged in by people who are married to, or otherwise partnered with, someone of the opposite sex, and not by self-identified "gay" people.

The article is otherwise depressing as hell. Some days I loathe the human race.

True number of protesters

Tommy your comment, it just doesn't make any sense. I can't follow what you're trying to say. It's just one big, long non-sequtir. It sounds like you're just making shit up, but even that is hard to determine.

This might help. Before you post, get your mom to read what you've written to see if she can understand what you've written.

Please Gov. Perry, secede. Please. I'll move down there and help you fight anyone who tries to stop you. Secede please, and take Oklahoma with you.

Please Salon, I understand you feel the need to post articles about Glenn Beck. He is after all someone in the "news". But must you publish pictures of him? I can't stand the sight of his pasty, fat baby face. You've got two more parts to this profile. How about instead of his face alongside the copy you put up pictures of slugs.

Or, it is all an act and Beck is a money making genius?

The idea that you need an education or any particular level of intelligence above average to be a success, defined as making a lot of money, is one of those vanities and myths we live by. It justifies the existence of the "higher education" racket and assuages the insult to all those who spent all that money and time getting academic degrees. What you need, what is essential is self-confidence. That, and as Mark Twain pointed out, sufficient stupidity.

Glenn Beck was assured of success.

They are all a disgusting part of the right wing fascist party masquerading as conservatives!

Sam Tanenhaus was on Bill Moyers the other night talking about his new book, The Death of Conservatism. His main thesis is that the kind of Conservatism that was championed by Goldwater and Buckley (among others) was a far cry from the kind of radicalism now found in the Republican Party. He says that the Republican Party went off the deep end with the appointment of George W. Bush to office. Now they're beholden to the voices of Palin, Limbaugh and Beck, a bunch of populist nutballs more akin to the old John Birch Society (whom Buckley denounced) than to anything resembling intellectually rooted conservatism.

Camille Paglia on Tennessee Williams? Oh please gawd, no, say it isn't so. Why not Gore Vidal, who already has a brilliant, loving essay about his friend in his collection United States. I assume there's an entry for Walt Whiman who is credited, along with Mark Twain, of creating the authentic and wholly American voice in literature.

America is evil.

No, just you for all your lying tripe.

Now I know why I never listened to zooey, jock radio with all its loopy, silly noises, antics and stunts. It always struck me as utterly juvenile. It must be full of fart jokes, like Glenn Beck.

Zorkna thinks he's Glenn Beck. Zorkna, you can't get there from here.

If we had any leaders at all, it was Lennon, Dylan (and ask him what he thought about that!), Warhol, Kesey, Brautigan, and a number of other artists, writers, musicians ... but certainly none of those self-proclaimed political fuckheads ...

Wow, Richard Brautigan, dayum, I was just thinking of him the other day for the first time in years and wondering what became of him! How odd that his name should suddenly show up in the Salon comment section. I read all his books 34 years ago when I was 22. And yes, the rest of the guys on the list. I would have to add Joni Mitchell to the musicians. If I thought of myself as having leaders (I'm not a follower, of anybody) they would have been mine as well. I never thought of Hoffman, Leary, et al, as "leaders" more like self-promoters, like Glenn Beck is today, but "smarter". I cast my first vote for McGovern, because he was such a decent, honest man. He was doomed to failure of course as a Presidential candidate. And the "Queen's Vernacular"..wow, I bought it the first minute it was published but haven't seen a copy of it for years.

I forgot the attribution!

I have enjoyed these comments more than I have most other comments on any article on Salon. I'm a big fan of Glenn Greenwald and most of his readers, but most of you have been supremely articulate and insightful in sharing your thoughts and corrections to Lind's historical dissembling and bauble headed assertions. The editors at Salon should be proud of its readers.

at Salon for running this story, why can't Olberman or Maddow use some of this on their shows? Why not expose his cruelty and arrogance? Why not go after him like he has Progressives?