but first, Dee Dee, you mention a very important (and terrifying) point - where the hell is McCain's damned 'honor'?? He has aligned himself with the people who crucified him in previous years with their obscene tactics, all to win office...and the choice of Palin (I live in the boonies, and the mayor of my municipality is not qualified to be VP even tho our population is around 7000) is incredibly dishonorable - to the country, to women, to men, and, a la SNL last night, Hilary Clinton. But, bafflingly, to himself!

Not all Christians are religious nuts. But from everything that's out there about Palin, SHE is.

And good for you too!

And for an encouraging report from the trenches.

These STUPID people who are so obsessed with abortion and gays that they can't even think about the economy or the war... They would vote - their lives and everyone else's - on these puerile issues...

said - The momentum is all for McCain now... 20 point swing in white women voters, well up in the state-by-state polls in places the left never thought he stood a chance. Obama was just a big self-inflated bubble now burst.

McCain/Palin do represent our interests, despite what the left tries to say about corporate interests. Creating jobs creates wealth. Obama wants socialist wealth redistribution, which is proven time and again to be completely counterproductive.

#### We redistribute wealth to a degree in Canada, and we all have health care (no insurance companies standing between us and the doctor - no bureaucrat either in the way insurance companies do it). If you want ANYTHING, you're going to have to pay taxes. Jeez, having highways is redistribution of wealth - you want to build your own roads? You believe these people who are seeking power IN ORDER TO CUT DOWN GOVERNMENT? What a laugh. And creating jobs is a great thing - but you gotta have a PLAN, not just mouth words. (Obama has some solid ideas...speaking of highways, or the bridges at least.) (Not to nowhere...)

benny - Why do they love Sarah, and tout her background? Because she's not an elitist hypoctical self-appointed messiah like Obama. She's a real person and understands their plight. And John McCain knows, from braving torture and running a large naval fleet, the kind of adversaries we will soon be facing, and he knows evil when he sees it.

#### But do they know what to DO about "real people" and their plight? Sympathizing on the campaign trail won't even get you a cup of coffee. What does McCain plan to do (let alone what does that ditz have in mind).

benny - Obama is Neville Chamberlain, appeasing Hitler, and McCain is Churchill, the ultimate realist. As Churchill said to Chamberlain, "You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war."

#### Obama was scaring me with declarations months ago about going into Pakistan! He pointed out that Iraq wasn't the problem - Bin Laden and his boys are elsewhere. And as for this appeasement crap - talk isn't necessarily appeasement. Christ, I'm even in favor of talking to idiots, and am hereby demonstrating it.

#### Oh damn, sorry, I hate these intemperate self-righteous posts, and here I'm doing it...but that's another thing to admire about Obama:- He keeps his cool and his humour in the face of idiots.

Good for you! I wish I could follow suit, but I live in Canada, so can only watch, shivering, from the sidelines.

But the one not-negative thing you mentioned in your first post - that Palin said she wasn't standing in judgment re homosexuals. I don't think that's what she said. She did a clever sidestep, as with the plane on E-Bay thing, that let people fill in the blank wrongly. Gibson asked if she thought homosexuality was genetic or a (so ridiculous!) a furshlugginer choice, and THAT was what she said she wasn't going to "judge". Unfortunately, he didn't ask directly what she thought about homosexual (haha) "activity". And this, I think, is an instance where the dumb republicans are clever enough to fill in the blank properly! While we liberal-thinking people take people at their word and say, but she SAID... That's why we get tied up in knots when these people lie...it doesn't matter what they say, cuz they know what they mean...

said - "This repeated derogatory reference to her Mayoralty could be taken as an insult to those who actually live in small towns. "

Not necessarily. I live in a very small municipality, and it makes me visualize our local mayor as a possible VP... Yikes.

I saw a bit of the interview on CNN and their Republican commentator (a woman named Babe, I believe - !!) thought Palin did good. And she articulated it in a fashion that seemed to indicate a brain. Of sorts. Gibson looked like he was sucking on a pickle. (Ohmygod what am I doing here)

Saw the whole of the McCain and Obama interviews. McCain didn't sound as much of an idiot as he's been portraying himself recently (though blaming Obama for the nastiness of the Republican campaign because he wouldn't do the town-hall travelling show), but he was just sort of Not Too Awful. Obama, of course, was clearly such an all-around superior person. How could anyone not want him as prez? (Well, those who don't like superior persons - esp. non-totally-white superior persons...)

Just to contemplate the Palin prattling next to Obama's thoughtful, intelligent, experienced mentally at least - as someone said on one of these threads today, there's a disturbance in the force (and angels weep).