It makes no sense in light of the fact that the entire Arab-Muslim world is in a state of war with Israel. In every war of Arab aggression, at least five or six surrounding, well-armed Arab states invaded tiny Israel. The numbers of Arabs and their arms vs. the Jews are astounding. Who is 6'2"? S. Klein, Arab Fighter

The "entire Arab-Muslim" world? Do really believe that? All of them? I guess you are finished then. What's that, 1 billion vs 4.5 million? Does that include the Arabs living in Israel? If they as "Arab-Muslims", want to liquidate you, as you say, isn't the next logical step (in your mind) a pogrom or something? Have you considered enforced sterilization? It could work.

Those states may have been well armed but you beat them and took their land. And nowadays you have nukes, lots of them. Israel is invulnerable. Hilary has already threatened to annihilate Iran should they attack "you". What are scared of? Why are you such a coward? Why do you think that they hate you?

The real shame is the way you come in here and hijack the thread with your paranoid and pernicious theories about legions of zombie "Muslims" descending on your homeland.

The evidence that "they" are using EFP's is indisputable, I dispute your unsupported assertion about "factories".

But before I answer your question, "Mr Owen, how much experience you have making platter charges? The penetrators (those aluminum discs) are machined and mass produced, sorry, where are factories that can do that in Afghanistan?", I would have to see some evidence of those "factories" of which you dream.

One thing I do know, EFP's have an effective range of less than 100 meters. The simple smart thing to do, is to get out of range. Withdrawing from Afghanistan and Iraq would be a GREAT way to do that!

Of course that would not help with the fleets of nuclear armed Iranian ICBM's, but then they don't have any of those do they?

Any properly equipped machine shop could crank 50 of these out a day, no "factory" required.

And the disks are copper, not aluminium as you assert.

Or something like that. What better evidence of his racism and bigotry could exist than his own loathsome words.

"That the Arabs are also Semites I cannot say. If an Arab behaves like a Semite (a son of Shem), good; he is my brother. - S. Klein"

What does a "Semite" behave like Steve? Is the righteous Derbig a Semite in your book? Do you believe that you were "chosen" by G_d? And if so, what for?

And finally, if all men were brothers, would you let one marry your sister?

Iranian Weapons

EFP (Explosively Formed Penetrators), glorified platter charges with a difference, instead of using a steel plate, the platter is made of machined copper, and is "sweated" into the casing. To do that you need a fairly equipped, sophisticated machine shop, raw materials and a production line (and the infrastructure to support all of that . . . which is exactly where in Afghanistan?). We saw those first in Iraq, now in Afghanistan produced in exactly the same way . . . guess where? Iran. This has been the one munition most effective in Iraq, and they are being effective in Afghanistan as well, supplied by . . .?

Gedicht

You see, what you have been told is a lie. I could make an EFP myself, it's freaking EASY. Just ask the Discovery Channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LudNqf56AFo

You are such a racist. The stupid Afghanis are way too stupid and primitive to make EFP's. The Iraqi's of course never had the highest percentage of PHD's in the Middle East as they were stupid too, and could never ever make something that required anything more complicated than a 3 legged camel.

EFP's have been in the arsenals of armies around the world for over 60 years. They ain't new, are they aren't complicated.

You should examine your assumptions.

The proof that the weapons found in Eyerack came from Eyeran, is the "fact" that they were stamped, "Made in Iran".

Even crackheads, when robbing banks, don't sign the note.

The question then becomes, "Is Eyeranians stupid?".

Steve? Where do you get your energy and determination? And if G_d chose the Jews, who chose you?

Say I'm 6'2", about 220, Muay Thai training, mixed martial arts. Say, further, that there's this six-year-old down the block who keeps talking about kicking my ass. It's that kind of a neighborhood.

—Paul Daniel Ash

Your analogy makes no sense. Who is 6'2", about 220, Muay Thai training, mixed martial arts in your analogy

—Steve Klein

I believe that he was NOT being disingenuous when he wrote the above.

Maybe the real enemy is, and always has been, the stupid.