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Bill Owen

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Saturday, October 10, 2009 02:46 PM

On "delivering"

The fact that Obama has not delivered on "peace" is not, in itself exclusionary. Nobel prizes are not always awarded for what one has done, but may be awarded to those who, "are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace."

So the question then becomes, where and how, exactly, is Obama "creating peace"?

There is no question that he has personally approved attacks in Pakistan that have killed nearly 400 people, most of them civilians. Call me an absolutist, but giving the Nobel goddamn prize for Peace to a man who has killed hundreds of civilians is wrong for that reason alone.

But lets forget the children blown to pieces by Predators and Reapers for the moment, maybe it could be argued that this is part of a larger strategy, that will, in the end, save more lives than it expends.

Some would say he is "resolving conflict" in Palestine, but not me. Others would say that he is "creating peace" by trying to get rid of nuclear weapons, but would not that attempt, in order to be credible, have to be something other than tilting at windmills and making fine speeches? I really really doubt that he is serious about eliminating nuclear weapons, certainly not in America - especially since that will never, could never, happen. What a joke. Who believes that will happen? Is Obama going to announce that "Unilateral disarmament begins in 5 minutes"? More fairy tales.

Did I miss something? I mean could anyone say, with a straight face, that Obama is "resolving conflict" or "creating peace" in the AfPak region?

Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which recognize completed scientific or literary accomplishment, the Nobel Peace Prize may be awarded to persons or organizations that are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace. Wiki

Since Obama is waging war, and not peace, by any sane definition, it's official now. War is peace.

Saturday, October 10, 2009 02:11 PM

@ ishobo

There you go again, confusing teh trolls, and running rings round them logically. LOL

Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:06 AM
Original article: On the government's owners

Ondelette AND DCLaw!

Bring em on!

Welcome back gentlemen.

Friday, October 9, 2009 04:37 PM
Original article: Obama's Nobel Peace Prize

@ scuzzaman "Argument: A connected series of statements designed to establish a proposition."

Will that be the 5 minute argument, or the full half hour?

Try to avoid room 101, that's where they have the "being hit on head" lessons.

Now that I think about it, John Cleese and the other Pythons have done more for peace than Obama.

Friday, October 9, 2009 02:53 PM
Original article: Obama's Nobel Peace Prize

"Creating Peace"

Seems as if prizes are not always awarded for what one has done, but can be awarded to those who, "are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace."

So the question then becomes, where and how, exactly, is Obama "creating peace"?

Some would say he is "resolving conflict" in Palestine, but not me. Others would say that he is "creating peace" by trying to get rid of nuclear weapons, but would not that attempt, in order to be credible, have to be something other than tilting at windmills and making fine speeches? I really really doubt that he is serious about eliminating nuclear weapons, certainly not in America - especially since that will never, could never, happen.

Did I miss something? I mean could anyone say, with a straight face, that Obama is resolving conflict or creating peace in the AfPak region?

The statutes of the Nobel Foundation specify categories of individuals who are eligible to make nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. These include former recipients, members of national assemblies and congresses, university professors (in certain disciplines), international judges, and special advisors to the Prize Committee. In 2009, a record 205 nominations were received.[7] The Committee keeps the nominations secret and asks that nominators do the same. Over time many individuals have become known as "Nobel Peace Prize Nominees", but this designation has no official standing.[8] Nominations from 1901 to 1955, however, have been released in a database.[9] When the past nominations were released it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Erik Brandt, a member of the Swedish Parliament. Brandt retracted the nomination after a few days.[10] Other infamous nominees included Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini. However, since nomination requires only support from one qualified person, all nominations do not necessarily represent the opinion of the Nobel committee itself.[citation needed]

Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which recognize completed scientific or literary accomplishment, the Nobel Peace Prize may be awarded to persons or organizations that are in the process of resolving a conflict or creating peace. Wiki

So, it's official now. War is peace.

Friday, October 9, 2009 02:01 PM
Original article: Obama's Nobel Peace Prize

Current Nobel Committee members

Teh mystery is solved. Some of these guys are SOCIALISTS. Call Rush.

* Thorbjørn Jagland (chair, born 1950), member of Parliament, President of the Storting and former cabinet minister for the Labour Party. Member and chair of the Norwegian Nobel Committee since 2009.

* Kaci Kullmann Five (deputy chair, born 1951), former member of Parliament and cabinet minister for the Conservative Party. Member of the Norwegian Nobel Committee since 2003, deputy chair since 2009.

* Sissel Rønbeck (born 1950), deputy director, Norwegian Directorate for Cultural Heritage (Riksantikvaren), former member of parliament and cabinet minister for the Labour Party. Member of the Norwegian Nobel Committee since 1994.

* Inger-Marie Ytterhorn (born 1941), former member of Parliament for the Progress Party. Member of the Norwegian Nobel Committee since 2000.

* Ågot Valle (born 1945), member of parliament for the Socialist Left Party. Member of the Norwegian Nobel Committee since 2009.

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