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Bill Owen

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Monday, March 24, 2008 02:34 PM

McCain. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong on Iran

John McCain: Iran Crisis Most Serious Since Cold War

Fox News Sunday, Jan. 22, 2006

Sen. John McCain said Sunday that Iran's bid for nuclear weapons is the most serious foreign policy crisis since the end of the Cold War.

A nuclear capability in Iran is unacceptable," he said. Citing recent statements from Israeli defense officials, McCain said, "Put yourself in the position of the Israeli government. Your first obligation is to defend your people. And here's a country whose president calls for the eradication of your country from the map."

Notice what he says about Iran, that the mere "capability" is enough for him to attack! That is a very low and highly dangerous threshold. If this is his policy, then an attack under McCain is a certainty - as Iran, and perhaps 30 other countries around the world have the "capability".

The second paragraph tells us who is top of mind for him when it comes to the Iraq question. His use of the now discredited Ahmadinejad quote is also telling. Ahmadinejad never said that and McCain should know that. If he does not, he is ill informed. If he does, and still says it, he is a liar, not a straight talker.

He [Ahmadinejad] quoted Khomeini that "the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time." It is in fact probably a reference to some phrase in a medieval Persian poem. - Juan Cole

Not happy with lying about Iran, and deliberately misquoting Ahmadinejad, McCain goes on to threaten Russia and China. All in the same interview! Wow!

"If China and Russia want to be on record as being supportive of Iran in their nuclear ambitions, then I think that obviously has consequences as well," he warned.

If anyone thinks that an attack on Iran, under McCain, is not on, then I plead with them to think again. The consequences will cataclysmic.

Monday, March 24, 2008 02:59 PM

@ Defending our Freedom, What's your point?

You posted an article that claims the recent attack on the Green Zone was facilitated by Iran. Okay. Aside from the fact that that this is unlikely and unnecessary, (the resistance has mountains of weapons from the pre-war stockpiles, they don't need Iranian weapons or expertise (see my earlier posts), what's your point?

Is it your contention that simply because some guy in Iraq says so, it must true? Do you still believe these guys, and if so - why?

By your handle "defending our freedom" I assume that you are defending it from Iraq and not just from behind your keyboard? Btw, from whom are you defending? Islamofascists? Liberals? The corporatocracy?

Hows that search for the WMD going?

Just so you know, you sure are not defending my freedom. And if you are. Please. Stop.

Monday, March 24, 2008 03:03 PM

I am vaguely insulted

That I have not been accused of being a sock puppet. Having said that, I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

Monday, March 24, 2008 03:30 PM

@ Jim White -- Proof? We don't need no stinkin proof!

Actually, it's down the memory hole now of course, but last year, our shadowy masters, provided 'proof' of Iranian involvement some time ago.

Unfortunately, that 'proof' consisted of munitions, claimed to be from Iran, with English lettering! Who knew?

http://www.needlenose.com/node/view/3796

That was really sad. I swear they could pull a dead rabbit of a hat, say the Iranians did it, and 30% of Americans would believe it.

Monday, March 24, 2008 03:51 PM

@ Bucky vs LWM

I don't know how many names LWM uses. I wonder how you do? Syntactical analysis? Word frequency tables? Or are you hacking the Salon servers and harvesting IP's?

It don't matter. Can we get back to the discussion? Just pretend they are all LWM or some combination thereof? Seriously, does it matter to you?

Not trying to be an asshole, but this is not what I come here for.

LWM and friends are correct. We, as in the world, are facing an existential threat, i.e. global war, not to mention an environmental catastophe. Can we all agree that McBomb is not the man to stop that? And can we further agree to work together (more or less) toward that goal?

About all I am certain of is that Timberman is not Good Celery and that Glenn Greenwald is almost certainly Glenn Greenwald. Beyond that it's all just data packets through a router.

Monday, March 24, 2008 03:58 PM

If foreign policy experience is the sine qua non for the Presidency...

Then my nomination would have to go to one of the longest serving, most experienced leaders in the world today. A man tested by actual combat, a fighter who has taken on, and beaten, one of the largest empires in history, not just once but many times!

No, there can be only one choice for the Presidency, and that is Fidel Castro. I think he is younger than McBomb too! %>)

Monday, March 24, 2008 04:16 PM

@ JKalos Mosaics, Question

It is rare to read any article in the American or British press which mentions the American dead and also mentions the Iraqi dead, even the ludicrously low Bush number of 30,000.

Watch for this. It's true. Even during WWII the press would print "the score". It's kind of like reading "the Yankees played the Mets today. The Yankees got 6 runs."

Until America starts acknowledging those alien deaths, nothing will change.

I wonder if in Iraq they produce similar, although vastly larger, mosaics, and whose pictures would they use?

A credible number for Iraqi dead is 650,000. It may be as high as 1.2 million.

"Even" 30,000 is too many for nothing but a lie and dream of empire.

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