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RealName:
[Read the article: A beautiful mosaic of anti-blogger hatred]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Is commentary about the commentary of other's commenting on commentary about the media sort of frames that argument rather well. I mean who in their right mind would even worry about a 4th hand derivative opinion of something at all? We all have opinions about having opinions. How nice for us.
Who in their right mind would accept such an absurd dodge?
Typical right wing response: Whenever they can't argue the point, just claim the whole debate is pointless.
You just won the Grade 4 Debating Championship. Next, you can hone your skills on "says who!" and "come here and say that!" to be ready for Grade 5.
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Shellacking
[Read the article: A beautiful mosaic of anti-blogger hatred]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Glenn, this, and the Klein bit yesterday are a positive tour de force. Clearly, the blogger critique of the media has them spluttering with indigation at being questioned by us DFH's.
But they're responding. We have their attention. I won't quote that cliche Gandhi quote, but it does seem apropo.
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J.M. Greysky
[Read the article: A beautiful mosaic of anti-blogger hatred]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]But if the goal is to demand real journalism, then it may well be up to bloggers to DO IT. But don't expect love from the Old Boy's Network for that desire and effort. Not until you've proved your merit. As in discriminated-against groups (women, minorities) blogger-journalists are going to have to work twice as hard and do it twice as well in order to get acceptance and respect. And perhaps you should look for that acceptance and respect not from the Ruling Class, but rather, from the grassroots.
So we're not allowed to critisize them unless we can do investigative journalism better than them?
Now that we've got that sorted out, let's all stop criticizing congress and the president and run for office. Only those who've done a job can actually have an opinion about it.
You're really missed the point, sir.
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RealName:
[Read the article: A beautiful mosaic of anti-blogger hatred]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]There are an equal number of insipid right wing blogs that you can barely read w/o bursting out laughing at the utter insanity of them. It's like most rap; so ridicuously inane you can't even make more fun of it than they do. So no, lefties shouldn't feel singled out. There are plenty of right wing noise machines out there too.
Ahh, the equivalence fallacy again. Did you edit out the manadatory paragraph where you explain that Michael Moore is just as bad as Ann Coulter? Or that Limbaugh is the equivalent of Ward Churchill. I really like those ones.
And as for feeling singled out, perhaps you could link to some articles in the mainstream press complaining about right wing bloggers. Glenn has documented numerous instances of their violent and eliminationist alarming rhetoric, and yet the Kleins and Broders of the press only ever seem to get around to complaining about DailyKos or Greenwald.
It's almost as if they know the right wing blogs are a swamp of insanity. Dog bites man isn't news. For the left, which actually has crediblity to lose, it is worth attacking us.
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RealName:
[Read the article: A beautiful mosaic of anti-blogger hatred]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Being who you are and what you believe in automatically exempts you from criticism? Curious. Aren't you the folks leading the vanguard of how the press took a lay down these last few years?
But by all means continue to imagine whole dialogs you'd like to have heard me say. That's fine. Yes I'm sure I did say something about Michael Moore. Of course, why don't you read it back to me now? Please do.
No. I was being faceticous in order to make the point that you cannot simply wave a wand at the blogosphere and declare that both left and right have demonstrated equivalent levels of insantity. No doubt you can dig up obscure posts by left wing bloggers of no import that you would equate to the daily nonsense coming from Malkin, LGF and FreeRepublic, but the point being: They're not equivalent sites and the numbers do not line up. If you want to make that case, you need to demostrate it. Hence the Moore/Coulter phony equivlance made so often.
This isn't the Jedi force, where the two sides do not have to have some kind of cosmic balance of insanity. That seems to be the underlying assumption of people like yourself. Ones who make an artificial virtue of being in the "centre" or being "moderate" and assuming that endows you with some special insight lost to those with vehement partisan or ideological opinions. Well, if one side is right and the other wrong, being in the middle is less wrong, but still wrong.
Last, I do not think we are "above criticism" where did you see me say that? Or anyone here? What a silly strawman to argue against. I agree: Bloggers are subject to critism. But the critism must be intellectually coherent, fact based and sensible.
Here's a question for you RealName: Drop down to our petty gossip level and consider the merits of the statements presented. The opinions of Yoo, Broder and Klein and Glenn's rebuttals. Where do you stand on that question, as beneath you as it seems to be?