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I have to caucus on Feb 5 and I want to know Clinton's strategy that gives her a shot at the White House. She does poll poorly against McCain and such a huge percentage of Americans insist that they will never vote for her. So what is the strategy? I mean, besides "saying that she can't win is just bullshit!" Or, "she can handle the Republican attack machine!" How can she possibly win Ohio? Can she put any southern states in play?
I am asking because I am a democrat, not a fear monger.
but I have said on several boards that I don't think Clinton can beat McCain. As a pragmatic democrat I do know that an "unqualified" Democrat at this point will be a lot better than the best Republican in the race. But I am convinced at this point that Clinton's negatives and McCain's appeal to independents will allow him to scamper over her in the general. And I think he will pick someone *like* Santorum or Huckabee rather than Rice. I think Obama has a shot, but it will still be mighty tough.
You do realize you just wished an ill fate on millions of people?
I still haven't heard anyone tell me how Clinton can win in the general election. I have asked on all the boards and talked extensively with the local Dems. Not only no strategy that seems believable (Florida or Ohio in play, maybe?) but no strategy at all. Just wishful thinking stuff -- "her negatives can't go any higher."
I will enthusiastically support Clinton if she wins the nomination, but I feel I have to go with Obama as the best hope for November.
In November 50% of the American electorate will vote for permanent war, tax cuts, enforced pregnancy and gay persecution. The artificial cohesion cannot be sustained!
Americans sure went wrong with the Nazi-beating, middle-class creating, depression-ending, social securitizing Roosevelt. We are disgusted with Democrats having ended American racial apartheid and putting humanity on the moon. Lately we are much more impressed with the Republicans who have lost two wars, an American city, and the economy.
And Canada has a fine health care system, you liar. It's just not ours.
And I know you are frustrated and anxious. But Obama is very unlikely to take the #2 spot. My biggest concern is that Hillary is a voter-suppression machine for young democrats. My second biggest is that she polls next-to-nothing with independents.
The unreconstructed liberal battle cries are great -- but they won't win in November.
Good Luck at your caucuses.
And she will win hundreds, if not thousands of votes in the general election.
But boy, a lot of her supporters here sure do. Simple fact is that she has to win the nomination to win the general. I'll vote for her if she does and so will 99% of the overheated Democrats right now threatening not to. Same as the fussy kids threatening not to vote for Obama will come around.
It certainly won't be enough for Clinton to beat McCain, the media, and maybe Bloomberg and probably won't be enough to beat McCain all alone. That Clinton probably can't do well enough to beat McCain understandably makes us all pretty angry and frustrated, but why so shrill whenever anyone makes a comment or joke about her electability? It's not like it's a lie to point out the polling data that shows her particular weaknesses in the election.
But, who among us will ever tire of inviting those who disagree with us to grow up, get some therapy, an IQ, some integrity blah blah blah
The only solid evidence we have is that Obama polls significantly better than Clinton against McCain. The rest is argument about why the polls are somehow not good predictors and this is why I think Hillary is the stronger candidate.
If the question really is who can beat McCain, the answer right now is that our best guess is Obama. Any other answer is speculation, wishful thinking, or deception.
I think the whole reimaging ideal is aimed at increasing human freedom and reducing the trauma of gender roles for both boys and girls. This ideal has been around since the 1970's, and clearly has never been aimed at "changing" boys for the benefit of girls.
He did not win the 2000 nomination so was not on the radar of the non-political junky voters for very long if at all. The smart Democratic nominee will tie the war to the economy. Smart surrogates will play video of McCain himself saying Americans don't care if we stay in Iraq for 10,000 years.
McCain will have his troubles, which means probably only 50% of Americans will vote for endless war, ruined economy, gay persecution, and disappearing civil liberties. I have to agree that only about 30% will be aware of what they are voting for.
We already know that the Clinton campaign is in relative disarray and losing momentum by the minute. But do you really think that Clinton is going to lose support from Latino voters over a staff shake-up? Life is short. Spend time wisely.
it admits Chuck Norris.
I think the wise democratic nominee will tie the war to the economy -- surge and its success be damned, the economy is the number 1 concern of voters this year.
although not the only one of course, that Kerry lost in 2004 was Newsome's big stunt.
If the story grows some legs. But the narrative right now is that McCain was trashed by poor journalism or liberal intentions. Either way, he is seen as the victim right now.
They went to court and presented evidence. I know that is not a particularly popular thing to do in these unenlightened times, but if anyone 'perverted' anything it was the court.
It's a political cartoon. Calm down.
Except that Conason is for Clinton. I think a lot of Clinton supporters rightfully cringed at Ferraro's patently bigoted comments.
For a minute I thought it was sometimes not the wife's fault when her husband hires a prostitute.