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Saturday, January 19, 2008 03:37 AM

No Se Puede

I wonder how Rosie the Riveter feels about having HER sentiments co-opted too.

Wow, it seems like a really common morale-boosting idea. Could it just be that people, you know, use it all the time without it being an ominous detail? Sheesh. I need to keep reminding myself to stay off Salon until after the primaries. The Clinton campaign has serious boundary issues and is trying to force Obama to make the same mistake (another boundary issue), while Obama is saying, no, he didn't endorse this ad and he won't condemn it either. Come on- he's supposed to condemn an ad put out by a powerful union that endorsed him? Just like Hilary immediately condemned that nasty statement about Obama AT A RALLY INTRODUCING HER? Yeesh.

This is just ridiculous, and it's poisoning everything. I want the Clintons to go away. I might start supporting Obama just so Edwards can drop into the background and let that happen.

Not that I actually have any SAY, mind you. I don't get to vote until March. It makes me absolutely sick to see the Clintons promoting the politics of despair with all this three stooges eye-poking bullshit. Maybe Bill is just mad that Obama (successfully) stole HIS schtick. But that message isn't new either. It's just different from the last seven-plus years of cynical governance. Personally, I don't want to put my check in the 'another four years of despair and hatred' box. Not that my vote counts in the general election either.... Urg, the longer this goes on, the more I feel that we are all doomed. No, no se puede.

Saturday, January 19, 2008 06:42 AM

Thank you, Anonymous 5:25

This kind of stupidity gives credence to the 'elitist' label we have been enduring for far too long. And Edwards' lack of traction sometimes makes me wonder if it's really true. The Two Democratic Parties. Yuck. This is why I vote Green and Progressive whenever possible.

And Walter, I'm really disappointed that you didn't manage to find some more reasonable folks to interview. They don't have to be centrists, but this is a little over the top. People like this are EVERYWHERE, not just South Carolina, and I'm disappointed to see this stereotyping in this publication. Almost as bad as the weirdos your colleague dug up from Paul's supporters - like that kid who took out thousands of dollars in credit card debt to give to Paul's campaign. I know for a fact that there are reasonable Paul supporters in the world. Let's talk to more of the rational people instead of letting zealots and near-imbeciles characterize the candidates we don't like. That's just irresponsible.

Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:48 AM

Does anyone else think

Thrasher and maureen are the same person?

Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:03 AM

I didn't say we need to be civil to everyone. :)

BillyFla: "ya call this civility??

"zealots and near-imbeciles"

would that refer to the Bush supporters in the article?? ;-)"

I don't think there are as many true Bush supporters as come up in the polls; just a lot of stubborn people who are answering a different question - i.e., 'do you still have a lick of faith in the republican party?'

Anyway, this article wasn't about Bush. It was about a few cherry-picked people who are basing their votes on things like one of the candidates seeming "too preppy." I am sure there are intelligent Republicans going to these rallies, but for some reason we don't get to hear their voices. Perhaps because they sounded too normal and Shapiro wanted a steak-fried-chicken flavor.

Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:06 AM

oops, I meant to say

"chicken-fried-steak fried chicken flavor"

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 09:43 AM

Don't hold your breath?

Ouch. That is a potshot at the wrong target.

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 02:07 PM

I understand what Obama meant

and the commercial misrepresents it. I'd call that "dishonest," even if it's not an outright lie.

Thursday, January 24, 2008 07:35 AM
Original article: A not-so-super Tuesday?

Wow, so my March vote might actually mean something???

At first I was depressed by Obama's win in Iowa, and then by Clinton's win in New Hampshire. But the combination is actually quite exciting: the race is still contested! Could it be that voters are being slowly re-enfranchised? Baby steps, I know - not instant runoffs, proportional representation, or parlimentary rule, but still. An increment.

This will be a nice preview of what it would be like if we stopped letting a couple small states decide things for everyone early on - if we had national primary elections, all on the same day. I can't wait to vote in March!

Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:44 AM

@Nick44

Some of us don't have TVs, and watch on our computer screens every time. And some of us - especially those of us with Macs (though I'm not one of them, as I have a laptop) - have amazing monitors. That's why Macs are popular with graphic designers. And why it's so annoying that you can only stream Netflix on Windows machines.

Thursday, January 24, 2008 01:32 PM
Original article: There's no taking sides

@cythera

Is someone paying you to write comments here? I don't get how you have time to closely read people's posting histories. And the KcM quote you provide isn't messianic, except in your own mind. S/he compared him to a Kennedy, not to Christ. Please. A sane sense of proportion would make this publication much more readable. (For the record, I am an Edwards supporter, and I don't have any illusions about his chances of Saving the Universe.)

Thursday, January 24, 2008 02:01 PM
Original article: Put a stake in it

There was nothing smug

about the living-in-the-woods post. You guys are just over-sensitive. Feeling guilty?

Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:54 PM

cythera, you are such an inspiration.

I am still an Edwards supporter, but you inspired me to donate to Obama's campaign this morning. Thanks for showing me the way! If not for your hateful, obsessive misrepresentations, I might have never Seen the Light.

Sunday, January 27, 2008 03:20 PM

The "Clinton is preparing Obama for the Republicans" argument...

is really starting to get on my nerves. While it may be true, there is nothing saying that it should be considered OK. It reminds me of people who excuse meanness to their children by claiming they're doing their kids a favor - i.e., 'the world will be hard on you, so I'm going to be hard on you at home'. The primaries don't HAVE to be this way, and it's not good for the party when it is. It makes the Democrats look pusillanimous, and feeds the shallow, sensationalist, celebrity-scandal-style campign coverage that has become the norm.

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