Mom's can be jerks like anyone else. But people should cut Moms, particularly inexperienced young ones, a little bit of slack. They assure the continuation of the species at great cost to themselves. Evolution has necessarilly selected for a certain assertiveness and sense of entitlement for a Mom's offspring. Some individual Mom's are able to integrate these biological gifts into more socially acceptable and productive behavior. Some not so much. But they all deserve extra consideration and extra resources for the job they are doing. Childless people who generically resent this are not seeing the whole picture. It is fine and desirable for people to choose not to reproduce. There are other good ways to contribute to society. However, without reproduction, everything comes to a grinding halt very quickly. Or if only women without a choice in the matter do all the reprodction, then society's values will decay very fast.

Its a typical trick of certain kind of white europeans to mask their own aggression against others with fake or exagerated claims of agression against themselves, and a very short memory about their own crimes. Reichstag fire anyone?

I think equating healthcare with the Nazi holocaust falls in the halfwit category.

Conversions happen. Members of the anti-choice community are not necessarilly anti-woman. At least they don't see themselves that way. One can view them as part of the moral march of progress that championed the abolition of slavery. Those abolitionist were also religious people standing on principals who did not believe that anyone had a right to choose to own another person. If a fetus is a person, it is not frivolous to also forbid the killing of that person for the convenience of any person or even for the betterment of society.

That said I don't view the anti-choice folks as part of the moral march of progress. But I see where they are coming from. I see the matter differently than them. I see a world where medical and agricultural advances have prevented "God" from taking many of the people he would have taken in the past as babies. Healthy adults also are more fertile. As a result, the world is drowning in people who consume resources and produce effluent on a vastly greater scale than other medium sized mammals so that the climate of the planet is changing.

It is now incumbent on us to take responsibility for our reproductive consequences. We can't afford an easy outlook that abdicates responsibility for the consequences to God. We can't really do that anyway, because "God" never said "life" begins at conception.

We know when life begins. This is not a question about "life". It is a question about when a developing life becomes human so that society gets a say in what its mother does with it. "Life" begins prior to conception with living cells of both parents. I have no moral problem with preventing those cells from getting together, although they are alive. A new "life" starts when the mommy's egg is fertilized. But it isn't human. I'm quite sure that a ball of cells is not a human being. I don't even think that it necessarilly attains human status when it develops a mini human look. I don't know when it becomes human. For me, I'm sure it is human when english common law said it was human. When it was born at or near term and drew its first breath its humanity vested. I think humanity vests a bit before that. But I do not condemn women in primitive societies who killed their newborns for reasons of inadequate resources.

We need to understand, as a society, that our animal nature's decieve us at times. A thing with little arms and legs etc. trips our triggers and pulls every lever in our brains. But that does not make it human. We react to dolls and little animals that way too. We can't, as a society be ruled by that reaction. But it is okay for individuals to be free to choose not to abort a baby based on that reaction. Society just can't afford to be so imprecise. Women have to be empowered to make reproductive choices that include abortion. That is the only way to take control of population and its consequences.

Thanks for the opportunity to vent. By the way, my wife and I have three kids. We fell in love with each as soon as we knew they were conceived. I also love puppies and kittens. So I'm not just talking theoretically here. Thanks again.

I thought it was real. It didn't seem funny enough to be satirical, but then again SP and her followers are so strange to me that I'd believe anything. I wouldn't have the first idea of what qualifies as real and what is off the wall. I could really hear somebody saying that Glen Beck cries because it hurts to love his country so much. How else would you explain his appeal?

Beck is a putz. I'm sure nobody said capitalism caused the acts in the video. And if he wants to see more of this kind of stuff he ought to look online at all the photos and postcards of ordinary white people smiling and posing in front of lynched black people suspended from trees. A lot of that happened in the bible belt. Was it caused by the bible? Maybe he could read about the Mountain Meadows Masacre out in mormondom in the 19th century. Maybe there is always a good supply of bad people around to do bad things and maybe everyone has a surprising amount of ability to at least tolerate atrocities.

You boys should pack up your delusions and go post on Stormfront or someplace. I'm tired of you vermin posting your gutter beliefs here.