Much of the electorate who voted for Bush assumed that his daddy would be helping him. A frightening percentage of the electorate assumed "George W. Bush" was his daddy, "George H. W. Bush."

Apparently, a lot of Americans are in a coma.

Enjoy another eight years of being in a coma.

and wondering why all the things you'd hoped for never came to pass. Why else would a blog exist but for to complain?

What happened to those heady days of spring and "The Audacity of Hope"? It's turned into the "audacity of humbug" and the best that TT can say for Obama is he can't be worse than Bush. It's a hard thing see - falling so far so fast.

It's not the inexperience that sticks in my craw; it's the fact that the guy is basically a punk bitch. All big talk and when the time comes to walk the talk he hides his timid little face behind the triangulating DLC creeps. FISA comes to mind. No, I won't forgive or forget FISA. The ultimate Backstab Obama moment of truth. There have been many others since, and we have nothing but more of the same to look forward to. That's the problem with him. Inexperience can be rectified. But spineless political hackness? I have yet to see that ever cured or corrected post-election.

Teslacoil'd,

You said it. Of course I'll vote for him versus McSame or Nader, but he gets no active support from me as a ball-less, soul-less political hack. And FISA was the killer for me, too.

that the people who read this and don't write comments actually get it. I'm going to do that just for my own sanity, otherwise If I thought the people writing letters here were a real reflection of the majority of readers, I'd have to think that Salon has turned into a sort of refuge for bitter Hillary holdouts from the modern equivilant of the Island of Mindanao, where 200 Japanese soldiers were found still fighting the war years after it had ended.

I don't want to think that, but it's becoming harder not to.

Salon, take a moment and reflect. 80 % of Democrats are enthusiastically backing Barack Obama. Those who would call themselves liberal or progressive, it's a higher percentage. By all counts, the hard core Hillary backers who refuse to vote for Obama on those grounds are an almost invisible quantity, the "18 million" turned to 2 millions then turned to not being able to get the minimum of 250 of them to have a meeting, so it was canceled.

Poster at Salon, it appears, are running around 90% anti-Obama these days.

(Sparky-like pause goes here)

So has it occured to you that Salon is now being read to a large degree by either right wing Republicans or fanatic Hillary holdouts?

Has it occured to you to wonder why?

Brilliant as always, TT. You and Greenwald should find a new home though.

has now been set so low, it's like a Limbo Contest!

Great cartoon, of course common sense would suggest that just being the most un-Bush-like would be enough, but people are often too oblivious.

Obama compared to Bush? No comparison. Politically much more progressive, intellectually far more rigorous. And he's revitalizing the Democratic party machine, not just using it for fundraising.

Obama has produced more useful policy just on this campaign, never mind before, than W or McCain has for their political lives. Useful defoned here as helping regular folks, not corporations or lobbyists.

Want to know why more active duty armed forces people favor Obama with money? Because he really supports them. Obama also has a track record helping veterans who got the run-around from Washington.

Rovian and PUMA trolls (and Rovian trolls pretending to be PUMA trolls) have infested these boards, but they are just trying to spoil the party.

Well yeah and just to be explicit, the point of the cartoon is NOT "Bush has been such a disastrous loser that we might as well elect some inexperienced schmuck like Barack Obama".

The point of the cartoon is about the disingenousness of the "inexperienced" argument being tossed around so often at all. No one was asking this question about others (Kennedy, Clinton, Bush, all equally or less "experienced") plus it's complete nonsense anyway, since George W Bush has more experience in the actual job itself than anyone alive except for Bill Clinton, and no one would want Bush near the job again even if he were eligible. Yes, even with all that "experience".

It's pumping up something that's both invented (he's got eight years as a Senator in Illinois, for pete's sake, an actual elected office, far more than Hillary could say) and as the cartoon points out, not anything that was raised as an objection to other candidates.

Mainly it's just saying look, you've HAD a disastrous catastrophic President and you're sitting around acting like someone who opposes everything he stands for and articulates it all well, might be WORSE?

But I mean, sheesh. If you have to explain a cartoon, sigh.

This place is definitely infested. There's nothing liberal or progressive about it anymore.

Don't worry, you're not alone. As John Elliott so eloquently put it, these people are either PAID or need to change their prescriptions. Or they're stupid beyond belief, which explains a lot of things.

Don't worry, you're not alone. As John Elliott so eloquently put it, these people are either PAID or need to change their prescriptions. Or they're stupid beyond belief, which explains a lot of things.

Well yes but there's another factor, one that I think is more central. Maybe a lot of them are drawn here by the continuued concern trolling of the editorial staff here. Salon was one of the worst Obama-bashing sites during the primary and this clearly drew in a huge contingent of Hillary fanatics, and a lot of them remain. By "a lot" I mean that they're far overrepresented here compared to the general population, where they're actually a tiny blip statistically.

This is then mixed with all the right wingers who would sling Obama insults and smears no matter what, maybe encouraged by all the bashing going on to think that this is a friendly place for that.

Whatever the reason, it's an utterly troll-filled environment now, from a liberal or even Democratic perspective, at least in the letters. I can only hope that those who don't post are different, as I hoped above.

I mean fine, have a site that's a mix of right wing and PUMAs, but that's not what some of us had hoped for Salon.