Peel back their mask

And take the idjits to task.

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General Flavius Josephus, the Jewish historian, who wrote about the Jewish revolt against the Romans, and the various conquest of past times. The New Yorker must have B.O. in a tuxedo.

`Why you knocking? People need a Promised Land?

`Why not knock out the radio/TV pundits blue teeth?

The land of Canaan is harsh, dry, and where's Moses?

`Why not get some josh? Joshua? He stomps on toes.

`B.O. needs an apostate advisor to get oil real estate.

Do B.O. ever make any common sense? The B.O. consultants need to suggest that at each B.O. Pep Rally event, and at every happy cocktail hour, have the band play.... 'It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp'.... sigh. This is not a decision to vote yet that citizens be given free boxes of 'Rocco's Confectionery'.... This phenomenal world is right. Tom T. ? Who the pundit with angelic wings coming from his ears? Maybe it's just two low level nebula? T. Tomorrow knows a friendly psychoanalyst.

Obama wasn't acting like a politician.

If he had acted like a politician he would have followed public opinion and voted a symbolic nay - he would still gain the powers granted by the legislation when he became president, and he would be seen as a leader against it.

And the Republican attack adds would go on, but frankly, they are going to do that anyway so no real loss.

It would have been all win for him, rather than all lose.

Instead, Obama acted like a spineless idiot. He voted for it, which now allows his opponents to justly paint him as Kerry's sequel, only with a dark skin and ties to "terrorists".

...with Obama spokesman Bill Burton, I was thus reassured-- "to be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill which includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies." Oh wait, that actually was a real conversation.

Your various reactions to Obama are spot-on. I like the virulent RWAs claiming how he would commandeer houses for illegal immigrants because he's the anti-christ. I think you meant that to be an outrageous exaggeration. Unfortunately, it wasn't.

My dad (a hard-core RWA who even looks like your caricatures) sincerely believes that the main pillar of Obama's platform is to "kick all white anglo-saxon protestants out of this country, just like that Robert Mugabe did." There is no rational argument that can be made to counter this. I've tried. Obama and Mugabe are essentially the exact same person in the mind of a right wing bigot like my dad, and WASPs are an eternally persecuted minority group who need to band together to face this common threat to our existence. If my dad knew how to work the internets, he would undoubtedly be writing posts as an "anonymous life-long democrat who can't vote for Obama."

If politicians could win just by agreeing with what the public says in polls, the Democrats would win every election cycle. Most people agree with the Democrats on almost all of the issues. You have to anticipate how the issue is going to be framed. Alas, history suggest that the Republicans are going to be successful at framing most national security issues to their own advantage.

This is so right on. I hope the Obama support choir begins to listen before the Dem convention in Denver. Otherwise as another article points out we will be in fore more of the same old same old where the person has a D or an R in front of their name. http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_9881965?source=rss

Actually, mostly it is that the Democrats are notoriously bad at sticking to their guns - and they overestimate the public support for the opposing position, thus making them "Compromise."

A canny politician at this stage of the race would call the FISA bill a false compromise and accuse the Republicans of trying to cement their president's status as being above the law.

Thought you should know. Obama's earlier FISA promises did not come from any imaginary conversations I've had with him.

Here's one I had with Obama's official spokesperson:

"To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies."

And here's a few from Obama himself:

"I've been proud to stand with Senator Dodd in his fight against retroactive immunity for the telecommunications industry. Secrecy and special interests must not trump accountability. We must show our citizens -- and set an example to the world -- that laws cannot be ignored when it is inconvenient. Because in America –- no one is above the law."

"Ever since 9/11, this Administration has put forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we demand.

The FISA court works. The separation of power works. We can trace, track down and take out terrorists while ensuring that our actions are subject to vigorous oversight, and do not undermine the very laws and freedom that we are fighting to defend.

No one should get a free pass to violate the basic civil liberties of the American people -- not the President of the United States, and not the telecommunications companies that fell in line with his warrantless surveillance program. We have to make clear the lines that cannot be crossed. . . ."

You know, Tom, when you start thinking that reality is "imaginary", you're just one short step away from the padded rooms and the men with white coats. It's a shame that you've become so attached to a politician's personality that you have to dissemble and struggle with cognitive dissonance to defend some of his actions, but look on the bright side! For the first time, you can understand how Bush supporters must feel.