Letters to the Editor
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Published Letters: 1348
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Enough to make ya gag
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[Read more letters about this article: Here]God, Glenn. You know, I have a hair trigger gag reflex as it is. I can only read these columns of yours on an empty stomach. Kudos for all you do, but reading them is a discomfiting experience. Crazy making. This betrayal by the press is absolutely crazy making.
Reportedly, Petraeus' name translates from the Roman (as I read it) to Protector. Protect whom, becomes the obvious next question. Sure isn't our troops or the Iraqi peoples.
Jane Hamsher at FiredogLake has the pitch perfect way to handle these questions about the MoveOn ad. It's from a post she put up about Elizabeth Edwards negative response to the ad. Note to Elizabeth Edwards: Lay Off MoveOn http://tinyurl.com/yt86nr
The war is a desperate mess. When offered the opportunity to cudgel your own side, you pivot and attack. How about, “glad you mentioned that…I think an ad is about as relevant to George Bush’s growing collection of toe tags as a haircut is to the problems facing this country.” Or, “thanks for the opportunity to discuss this, Chris. I personally would not choose the word “betrayal” to characterize General Petraeus’s lack of judgment or skewing of the facts to perpetuate the war, but I do think we should be looking at the fact that this was the bloodiest summer ever in Iraq and asking ourselves if the assessment we’re being given about the situation is realistic…”
The ad, and it's advisability, continues to claim column inches/pixels at FiredogLake and OpenLeft. MoveOn is like the dog that caught the car it was chasing. The important thing now, IMHO is for MoveOn to continue to pound that message every chance it gets. And, indeed it looks like Giuliani was the next target. MoveOn (and the progressive insiders, no matter how squeamish they are) need to keep control and ownership of that meme. This framing resonates in the same way the right's attacks on Gore and Kerry resonated. It's too late to put the genie back in the bottle. If the Democratic candidates can't figure out how to use this meme (catch, pivot, parry) they darned near deserve to lose. Don't any of them know how to play this game?
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next?
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[Read more letters about this article: Here]At this point I'm not sure the next betray us target shouldn't be the so called elites of the M$M. I don't know that MoveOn has those kinds of resources, but the opportunity to use all of the ground work that Glenn, and some others, have already done seems gift wrapped.
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Thanks sysprog
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[Read more letters about this article: Here]For the links and discussion of the NY Times stand-by advertising rates. Andrew Sullivan had a post up yesterday indicating that the NYT was going to dismantle their paywall this week. It appears it hasn't been the revenue generating mechanism they thought it would, and have chosen to go for more "clicks" to generate advertising revenue instead. The rates MoveOn and Giuliani were able to get may be an artifact of that high need for revenue. Better to fill the ad space, than have the space remain empty.
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For those lurking and spouting support the troops
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[Read more letters about this article: Here]You're going to have to offer more than your hope that MoveOn continues to 'offend' the American public with the Betray Us meme. Talking Points Memo ran a story last night about the troops in Iraq supporting a defunding of this crazy war in their discussions with a certain Bush-Dog senator while he was there. Sufficient for that senator to reconsider his position on taking control of Bush's request for additional funds.
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What's in a name?
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[Read more letters about this article: Here]As much as I can respect why some individuals do not want the consistency of their views to be compared from one of Glenn's submissions to the next, or between various writer's submissions at Salon, I do wish for the sake of continuity on a thread, that they adopt something like Anonymous.a, Anonymous.b, or, AnonymousIII for date specific/individual writer's entries. If they want to be someone different tomorrow, or someone different somewhere else at Salon today, fine. Got no problem with that. But, 3 different people, all posting as Anonymous is a real pain in the rear. They also run the hazard of folks confusing them with one another. In some cases I can imagine that to be a real insult. Even Anonymous+your_neighbor's_dog's_name would work.
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@ Mona
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[Read more letters about this article: Here]Thanks. Regarding anonymous posts, you are, of course correct. I'd known that if I'd bothered to think about it - which, obviously, I didn't. However, are these cowards (?) so unimaginative that they couldn't put a 'code name' at the bottom of their comment so that readers could keep track as demonstrated below?
As for teh shooters ... a 12 step program to break the addiction of responding to them? LOL. Seems like every major blog I read has two or three pet trolls. People rail against 'em, then the same folks will 'summon' them when things get dull, and then squawk at each other for responding to them. I'm not sure what the social psychology is behind this phenomena, but it seems amazingly consistent. I assume it serves some social belonging need of the pet troll as well. I've seen it over, and over again.
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