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Friday, January 30, 2009 07:31 AM

Took the advice, reread the entire speech.

The whole section entitled "Strange Liberators" is pretty brutal.

I'm compelled to post this bit from "Protesting the War:

...The war in Vietnam is but a symptom of a far deeper malady within the American spirit, and if we ignore this sobering reality we will find ourselves organizing clergy- and laymen-concerned committees for the next generation. They will be concerned about Guatemala and Peru. They will be concerned about Thailand and Cambodia. They will be concerned about Mozambique and South Africa. We will be marching for these and a dozen other names and attending rallies without end unless there is a significant and profound change in American life and policy. Such thoughts take us beyond Vietnam, but not beyond our calling as sons of the living God.

In 1957 a sensitive American official overseas said that it seemed to him that our nation was on the wrong side of a world revolution. During the past ten years we have seen emerge a pattern of suppression which now has justified the presence of U.S. military "advisors" in Venezuela. This need to maintain social stability for our investments accounts for the counter-revolutionary action of American forces in Guatemala. It tells why American helicopters are being used against guerrillas in Colombia and why American napalm and green beret forces have already been active against rebels in Peru. It is with such activity in mind that the words of the late John F. Kennedy come back to haunt us. Five years ago he said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

Increasingly, by choice or by accident, this is the role our nation has taken -- the role of those who make peaceful revolution impossible by refusing to give up the privileges and the pleasures that come from the immense profits of overseas investment.

I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.

No wonder "the Man" harbored such intense distaste for him.

Friday, January 30, 2009 07:35 AM

Linky to the speech @ sig

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/058.html

In case you can't be bothered to look for it in the post...

Friday, January 30, 2009 08:06 AM

I'm willing to up my ante on the percentage of "deranged"

Apropos of nuthin' other than catching electro bragging about his use of proxy servers.

Friday, January 30, 2009 03:32 PM

Damn. "Illuminating" GG sez. INFURIATING is more like it.

Thank you thank you thank you Glenn, For helping to keep us informed.

Can you imagine how freaking aggravating it must have been to have been an ACLU lawyer for the past 8 years? Or worse still, one of their clients? Even NOW?

Saturday, January 31, 2009 07:06 AM

@GG re: update

Glenn I sent a msg to your salon addie w/ a related question.

Sunday, February 1, 2009 06:45 AM

Bodes ill re Jeppesen

Disheartening analysis in LA Times. More @ Linky or sig

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-rendition1-2009feb01,0,4661244.story

The CIA's secret prisons are being shuttered. Harsh interrogation techniques are off-limits. And Guantanamo Bay will eventually go back to being a wind-swept naval base on the southeastern corner of Cuba.

But even while dismantling these programs, President Obama left intact an equally controversial counter-terrorism tool.

Under executive orders issued by Obama recently, the CIA still has authority to carry out what are known as renditions, secret abductions and transfers of prisoners to countries that cooperate with the United States.

Current and former U.S. intelligence officials said that the rendition program might be poised to play an expanded role going forward because it was the main remaining mechanism -- aside from Predator missile strikes -- for taking suspected terrorists off the street.

Sunday, February 1, 2009 07:36 AM

RE: "typo"

I say leave it as it is, it's probably more apropos...

Monday, February 2, 2009 06:42 AM

Daschle's letter/"apology"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/02/former-senator.html

In a letter to the chair and ranking Republican of the Senate Finance Committee, which will hold a closed-door meeting at 5 pm ET today to discuss his tax issues -- first reported in this space and on ABC News on Friday night (sic) -- former Sen. Tom Daschle says he is "deeply embarrassed and disappointed by the errors that required me to amend my tax returns. I apologize for the errors and profoundly regret that you have had to devote time to them."

full text @ linky

Monday, February 2, 2009 06:48 AM

the factor

Shorter factor - Greenwald never writes about what I want him to write about.

Sorry bub, I've trademarked that line. I expected better of this place.

And this one's a keeper.

Obviously Daschle is a GREAT choice

I'm guessing it's the "obviously" modifier that some people have a problem with, (or is it the "GREAT") but what do I know?

Monday, February 2, 2009 07:05 AM

@ factor

BTW, I concur w/ your comment on the "Should NATO summarily execute whoever we can plausibly accuse of drug-dealing?" article.

And if you're worried about bird flu, stock up on some Sambucol. Seriously.

Monday, February 2, 2009 07:40 AM

Even a Stopped Clock is Right Twice a Day, E-dung

More precisely, it's a case of the the WSJ Ed. Board agreeing w/ "lefties" like the Daily Kos.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/2/1/213846/9715/728/691859

Must you continually reappear to remind everyone that there are still partisan nitwits who view everything through the lens of what is best for their "side" as opposed to what is best for the Country?

Haven't you been repeatedly and politely requested to FOAD?

Monday, February 2, 2009 08:51 AM

Thanks, Dung, for proving my point. 'Nuf said!

bamage:

Must you continually reappear to remind everyone that there are still partisan nitwits who view everything through the lens of what is best for their "side" as opposed to what is best for the Country?

e-dung:

And yeah, you are goddamned fucking right if you think I view domestic politics through the lens of "my side."

Monday, February 2, 2009 09:26 AM

PaulDA

I'll bet you a nickel E-dung is literally incapable of perceiving the distinction.

Monday, February 2, 2009 12:54 PM

I agree "in principle". BUT aren't you in effect posing the "ticking time bomb" scenario, Glenn?

I can only think of one individual who was renditioned outside of the WOT - Noriega.

Wasn't that a clusterhose from start to finish?

Monday, February 2, 2009 12:55 PM

Congrats on the book proposal, BTW

Will any more info on that be forthcoming?

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