The REAL value would be in having these people confronted and being forced to explicitly delineate for the audience EXACTLY what they were doing. And I know just the man I'd nominate to do it...

@GG - I'm hesitant to ask, but did I get deleted (the sanction/oversight comment)yesterday? For being O/T too early, maybe? If I knew why, I'd try harder to avoid it in the future.

Glad I asked. I slunk away yesterday and didn't come back until much later when some twit hacked me off to the extent that my simian fingers took to bangin' on the keyboard of their own volition.

...since many here would not agree that since Arab rockets killed [arbitrary number I assume] 20 Israelis, then it's OK to TORTURE to DEATH 20 Arabs? Do my eyes deceive me?

I'm sorry, but that thing isn't human. Can't be.

Nothing gained by leaving that one up, even as an exemplar. It's a shame GG has to play janitor and clean that type of stuff off the bathroom wall every now and then, but I'm glad he does it. I'll guess Chris S. is as well, at least in this instance.

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSN08201336

Lawmakers in Washington routinely pass nonbinding resolutions supporting Israel during Middle East crises. The Senate has backed Israel's ongoing battle against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip and the House of Representatives is expected to follow suit soon.

Even U.S. lawmakers who express sympathy for the Palestinians hesitate to call themselves pro-Palestinian and they voice strong support for the security of Israel as well, hewing to decades of close U.S.-Israeli ties.{snip}

Harry Reid, who leads the Democratic majority in the Senate, gave voice to the depth of the relationship when he said on Thursday, "Our resolution reflects the will of the State of Israel and the will of the American people."

The post Shartstain uses to "support" his execrable b.s. is from well AFTER sharter's contention it's OK to torture people to death.

A lot of the time Democracy NOW! has topics in which I'm not immediately interested. But I usually listen anyway, so I can learn a little something. This interview was much the same way for me.

Thinking about poli sci makes my head hurt. I'm becoming anti-Statist, anti-Corporatist, pro-Anarchist. But then what the heck do you do about Environmental regs? Veering O/T so I'll quit while behind.

...but I'm a Dancin' Fooooooooooooool!"

Sorry, popped in w/ half a buzz on and free associated.

Speakin' of Frank, anybody interested should check this smokin' version of Inca Roads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhLuiSyhFFw

So hot it's scary.

Did you see the absolute disdain OS showed for the "Special Prosecutor" question @ change.gov? I'm so ticked I'm spittin' nails.

Are there two Cass Sunstein's?

http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/

N/T

OS claims to want to deliver answers to the burning issues, hence the poll questions.

At the very top of the questions he rec'd was the one about appointing Fitzgerald as a Special Prosecutor. OS didn't even deign to answer it - instead posting an old quote from Biden that tangentially addressed the topic.

In round #1, the top question pertained to marijuana legalization. OS replied w/ a brusque one-sentence NO WAY! In Round 2, of the top 10 questions, 3 were related to "why won't you give a more substantive answer to the marijuana issue, you said your policy decisions would be based on science!" I reiterate, 3 of the top 10 questions in Round 2, again! OS simply reposted his "Fuck you!", saying "I already answered that".

I was going to make a snide remark about post-partisanship, but libertygal got there before me.

More TAX cuts! That's what we need. And more WAR! Now, that's some feckin' Change I can believe in, right? And even More WAR on DOPE!! Gotta talk to Calderon about that...

I'll weigh in. YES. IF KSM was the 9/11 Mastermind, and if we tortured him, he ought to walk. Absolutely. Not a doubt in my mind.

I'm more afraid of people like you, who are apparently willing to provide a "work-around" for this whole unfortunate enhanced interrogation business, than I am of KSM.

You and your ilk have created literally hundreds of KSMs.

I'M not crazy. You're the one who's crazy. Keep it up. I'm hoping the damage to this country isn't irreparable quite yet. Apparently you won't rest until it is.

Civil liberties extremist my ass.

Am I that ignorant of my comic book lore? I'll have to check wiki.

Whatever the hell he is, KSM is way worse!

And so is Jestaplero!

Because he hacked me off this morning.

Give it up. We're not discussing minor technicalities. We're discussing torture. And I'll note that you've already got KSM convicted as if some semblance of a trial had occurred. Like I've said, bullshit like yours has created literally hundreds of boogeymen at least as bloodthirsty as KSM is presumed to be.

You're a prosecutor? So KSM is a bad dude, and who cares about the legal niceties? Piss off.

Can't Salon just ban certain ip addresses?

Feel free to delete my outburst.

And God "Belss" you too, Master Greenwald.