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I'll write to Hamilton.
Not to go way O/T/ early (but it IS FISA related), but if 'new" Yoo memo (4th amendment doesn't apply to Domestic War on Terror) new to you as well?
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Memo_justified_warrantless_surveill_04022008.html
Thanks for reposting the tiny url for nwwoods. I caught that piece late last night, got EPU'd on the prior thread. I think pow wow is on it as well. I think it's huge, but who am I to think?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/04/memo_justified_warrantless_sur.php or
http://tinyurl.com/2px3zf
http://tinyurl.com/28stdf
I basically stole yours. Hope that's OK.
Did you just inadvertently "BOLD" everything somehow, or is it my browser?
Conyers never directly asks Mukasey, "Were you just making' shit up, or what?" Instead, he asks enough specific questions that Mukasey, if in fact he was, will be compelled to RESPOND, "I can't answer those questions, because..."
Somebody, GG maybe, posted the vid already.
Maybe I misremembered? Damn! I've never been wrong before!
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/28/mukasey-chokes-up-in-call-for-retroactive-immunity/
or
http://tinyurl.com/2wj8t5
And I can't find any ACTUAL video.
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/another-possibility-with-mukaseys-911-story/#more-1986
or
http://tinyurl.com/477swz
Which leaves Kean, from whom Glenn is still waiting a response (after Kean asked him to email his question, suggesting Kean was unwilling to respond except in writing). So, to review:* Mukasey claims he knows about this intercept
* Zelikow issued a non-denial denial
* Hamilton refused to respond
* Kean may or may not respond
* Conyers has never heard of this intercept
These responses could mean any of several things--that Zelikow purposely directed the 9/11 Commission away from damning intercepts; that Zelikow's focus away from NSA was perfectly innocent, but that after the report came out, someone did do a review of those files and found an incredibly damning intercept ... but didn't tell anyone aside from the Commission leaders and, apparently Michael Mukasey. Hell, perhaps discussion of this secret intercept is one of the things that Jello Jay got briefed on, when he was briefed on FISA with just the Republicans after the illegal program was exposed. These responses could mean any of a variety of things.
But the inattention of the 9/11 Commission to NSA intercepts and Mukasey's claims about an intercept that has never before been revealed leaves open a possibility besides the one Glenn deals with--that it never happened. Indeed, it leaves open the distinct possibility that the Bush Administration--either before or after the 9/11 Commission--discovered the smoking gun intercept that, if they had noticed it, could have prevented 9/11. And that they found this intercept, but never told Democrats or the American people about it.
"Malignant incompetence". Pretty well sums up my thoughts on the past seven years.
I think it's an open question whether or not the pre-9/11 intelligence subsequently perused at their leisure was illegal.
Plenty of intelligence (all that was needed) was readily available as a direct result of the LEGAL acquisition methods already at their disposal.
So they decided, legal or not, let's just spy on everybody. (See John "the 4th Amendment means Jack Sh!te" Yoo)
I hearby nominate you for today's "Taking One for the Team" (otherwise known as "Better You Than Me") Award - for wading through 50+ minutes of Mukasey bs, so I don't have to...
That's yeoman's work, bird-dogging Joke Line in Swampland. Keep at it.
check it
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece
or
http://tinyurl.com/59xql3
God, I hope I make it to the singularity...
It was only my keen grasp of reality that enabled me to intuitively grasp your snark.
errata:
(1) Over the next couple of days, I intend to write about the "Responsible Plan to End the War in Iraq" -- which can be read here, and which seeks not only to effectual a real withdrawal but also repair the systemic crises which spawned the disaster, including executive power abuses. Last week, I interviewed one of the spearheads of the Plan -- the superb Democratic Congressional candidate Darcy Burnerhere.
"effect" & "Burner [space] here"
G'morning, all.
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You'll want to read this:
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-does-illegal-war-look-like.html
or, click sig for linky.
Just won himself another award
http://www.ridenhour.org/prizes_01.shtml
Bill Moyers2008 recipient of the Ridenhour Courage Prize
The 2008 Ridenhour Courage Prize is awarded to Bill Moyers in recognition of his fierce embrace of the public interest and his advocacy of media pluralism. Throughout his distinguished broadcast career, Moyers has contributed an unyielding moral voice to our national discourse. In the face of political and institutional opposition, he has fought tenaciously on behalf of open debate and liberal values, and against the corporate takeover of culture and information that actively threatens to weaken our democracy.
Thank you for the back-handed history lesson re Schenck.
I send a msg around to my "Political" distribution list that says "READ GLENN GREENWALD" along w/ a linky...
Today was one of those days.
https://therealnews.com/web/index.php
Has live Petraeus if you can stomach it, as well as lots of Winter Soldier film (J Scahill was pretty scathing, as ever)
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gop-blocks-surveillance-extension-2008-04-07.html
Is this of any real significance? Or simply background noise?