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Thursday, April 3, 2008 05:47 AM

@GG

I'll write to Hamilton.

Not to go way O/T/ early (but it IS FISA related), but if 'new" Yoo memo (4th amendment doesn't apply to Domestic War on Terror) new to you as well?

http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Memo_justified_warrantless_surveill_04022008.html

Thursday, April 3, 2008 06:32 AM

bystander

Thanks for reposting the tiny url for nwwoods. I caught that piece late last night, got EPU'd on the prior thread. I think pow wow is on it as well. I think it's huge, but who am I to think?

Thursday, April 3, 2008 06:42 AM

A little more on that memo via TPM

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/04/memo_justified_warrantless_sur.php or

http://tinyurl.com/2px3zf

Thursday, April 3, 2008 07:40 AM

Full AP article on that memo

http://tinyurl.com/28stdf

Thursday, April 3, 2008 02:01 PM

undrum

I basically stole yours. Hope that's OK.

Thursday, April 3, 2008 02:35 PM

GG

Did you just inadvertently "BOLD" everything somehow, or is it my browser?

Thursday, April 3, 2008 02:47 PM

Conyer's letter is interesting.

Conyers never directly asks Mukasey, "Were you just making' shit up, or what?" Instead, he asks enough specific questions that Mukasey, if in fact he was, will be compelled to RESPOND, "I can't answer those questions, because..."

Thursday, April 3, 2008 02:53 PM

Jim

Somebody, GG maybe, posted the vid already.

Thursday, April 3, 2008 02:57 PM

Can't find it though,

Maybe I misremembered? Damn! I've never been wrong before!

Thursday, April 3, 2008 03:02 PM

Guess my record's still unbleeemishd 8')

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/28/mukasey-chokes-up-in-call-for-retroactive-immunity/

or

http://tinyurl.com/2wj8t5

Thursday, April 3, 2008 03:32 PM

I sit corrected

And I can't find any ACTUAL video.

Friday, April 4, 2008 06:24 AM

G'morning all. Directly on topic (for once) THIS is required reading, I'd say...

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/03/another-possibility-with-mukaseys-911-story/#more-1986

or

http://tinyurl.com/477swz

Which leaves Kean, from whom Glenn is still waiting a response (after Kean asked him to email his question, suggesting Kean was unwilling to respond except in writing). So, to review:

* Mukasey claims he knows about this intercept

* Zelikow issued a non-denial denial

* Hamilton refused to respond

* Kean may or may not respond

* Conyers has never heard of this intercept

These responses could mean any of several things--that Zelikow purposely directed the 9/11 Commission away from damning intercepts; that Zelikow's focus away from NSA was perfectly innocent, but that after the report came out, someone did do a review of those files and found an incredibly damning intercept ... but didn't tell anyone aside from the Commission leaders and, apparently Michael Mukasey. Hell, perhaps discussion of this secret intercept is one of the things that Jello Jay got briefed on, when he was briefed on FISA with just the Republicans after the illegal program was exposed. These responses could mean any of a variety of things.

But the inattention of the 9/11 Commission to NSA intercepts and Mukasey's claims about an intercept that has never before been revealed leaves open a possibility besides the one Glenn deals with--that it never happened. Indeed, it leaves open the distinct possibility that the Bush Administration--either before or after the 9/11 Commission--discovered the smoking gun intercept that, if they had noticed it, could have prevented 9/11. And that they found this intercept, but never told Democrats or the American people about it.

Friday, April 4, 2008 07:18 AM

Did I see it in the EW thread?

"Malignant incompetence". Pretty well sums up my thoughts on the past seven years.

Friday, April 4, 2008 08:07 AM

WT

I think it's an open question whether or not the pre-9/11 intelligence subsequently perused at their leisure was illegal.

Plenty of intelligence (all that was needed) was readily available as a direct result of the LEGAL acquisition methods already at their disposal.

So they decided, legal or not, let's just spy on everybody. (See John "the 4th Amendment means Jack Sh!te" Yoo)

Friday, April 4, 2008 08:23 AM

Jim White

I hearby nominate you for today's "Taking One for the Team" (otherwise known as "Better You Than Me") Award - for wading through 50+ minutes of Mukasey bs, so I don't have to...

Saturday, April 5, 2008 09:53 AM

Dirks

That's yeoman's work, bird-dogging Joke Line in Swampland. Keep at it.

Saturday, April 5, 2008 08:25 PM

Yo, dawgs, 'Sup? Apropos of nuthin'...

check it

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece

or

http://tinyurl.com/59xql3

God, I hope I make it to the singularity...

Monday, April 7, 2008 06:23 AM

Maybe out some quotation marks around "American People"?

It was only my keen grasp of reality that enabled me to intuitively grasp your snark.

errata:

(1) Over the next couple of days, I intend to write about the "Responsible Plan to End the War in Iraq" -- which can be read here, and which seeks not only to effectual a real withdrawal but also repair the systemic crises which spawned the disaster, including executive power abuses. Last week, I interviewed one of the spearheads of the Plan -- the superb Democratic Congressional candidate Darcy Burnerhere.

"effect" & "Burner [space] here"

G'morning, all.

Monday, April 7, 2008 06:24 AM

"PUT" quotation marks..

N/T

Monday, April 7, 2008 06:26 AM

New post up

N/T

Monday, April 7, 2008 08:50 AM

@ Derbig

You'll want to read this:

http://balkin.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-does-illegal-war-look-like.html

or, click sig for linky.

Monday, April 7, 2008 02:48 PM

Elephantdung's (or was it Proximate Wanker's?) left wing loony

Just won himself another award

http://www.ridenhour.org/prizes_01.shtml

Bill Moyers

2008 recipient of the Ridenhour Courage Prize

The 2008 Ridenhour Courage Prize is awarded to Bill Moyers in recognition of his fierce embrace of the public interest and his advocacy of media pluralism. Throughout his distinguished broadcast career, Moyers has contributed an unyielding moral voice to our national discourse. In the face of political and institutional opposition, he has fought tenaciously on behalf of open debate and liberal values, and against the corporate takeover of culture and information that actively threatens to weaken our democracy.

Monday, April 7, 2008 03:59 PM

Credit where due (to Proximity)

Thank you for the back-handed history lesson re Schenck.

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 08:19 AM

Every once in a while

I send a msg around to my "Political" distribution list that says "READ GLENN GREENWALD" along w/ a linky...

Today was one of those days.

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 08:35 AM

The Real News

https://therealnews.com/web/index.php

Has live Petraeus if you can stomach it, as well as lots of Winter Soldier film (J Scahill was pretty scathing, as ever)

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 09:06 AM

O/T ? for Beuhler

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gop-blocks-surveillance-extension-2008-04-07.html

Is this of any real significance? Or simply background noise?

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