Blame the game, not the player. That the game is a poiticized nightmare world of disinformation and propeganda from the denier crowd should come as a surprise to no one.

- Let Mcyntire post his entire email cache for the same period as the CRU hack and let the chips fall where they may.

fprawl- where do you work in the university? The mailroom? Zing!

- it really bugs 'em when you bring up their past failures and humiliations, doesn't it? Dayum!

And I love how the deniers decry the lack of polite discourse and then, on the same fucking page go all crazy apeshit on your for daring to disagree with them.

It's like they're classic school-yard bullies who can dish it out, but can't take it.

But over the course of this letters section, you've made them take it again, and again, and again.

Bravo!

Oh... too late!

Squaresville is taping himself up, but he's out for the season.

I love how you are slaughtering your opponents on this thread. It is like a work of art watching it happen. Like Rohirim charging into the Urik Hai. A thing of terrible beauty!

I want to thank you for taking the time to do this, and to thank the deniers for showing that no amount of information, science, real-world observation, or internet humiliation will change your fool minds. Deniers, your example of incredible unreasonableness and ignorance is really the most damning part. Keep it up so the world can see how fools conduct themselves.

Keep the confidence, ladies and gentlemen!

I just want to thank you for the thankless task of troll-slaying that you've done on this thread. Outstanding work.

I would also like to thank fellowvoyager for settin' up the misinformation and misdirection so you two can knock 'em down.

Anthropogenic climate change is one of the big issues facing humanity, and the more deniers that get schooled in public forums the sooner we can start to do the hard work of dealing with it.

Keep the confidence!

- that's a good sign.

But I still want to know, when does PZ Meyers get his say? Salon's had articles and reviews dogging him and he should get his chance to fire back.

Wow. The response from the right is unusually strong, stupid, and shrill on this.

And I think that goes to prove that they love their fictions more than reality. In the 2008 presidential election it became clear that the right loved its political fictions mroe than the health of country. More than their own health. However, many of them did end up switching sides, joining the larger group of clear-eyed rock-ribbed realists that were stepping up to the plate.

I think that has generated a lot of self-hatred on the right, and these kinds of books are exactly what they need to soothe their guilt. And to show to their too-dumb-for-hope red friends and family that they are still with the movement.

Thus the furious backlash against this article. Your precious fantasies are just that- fantasies.

I also think it shows why they seem to love actors so mcuh- they really don't like reality, they prefer their fantasies.

Again, it's a good thing that there are more leftists and realists than self-hating, thumb-sucking right-wingers.

-of awesome from HH. Best ILTW EVAH!

- so little time...

-that part is right. 'Cause every poly person I've ever met won't shut up about it once they get going.

I swear they love the drama more than the people. Poly-drama-ry would fit them better.

I've only met a very small sample, but each and every one of them left me with that impression.

Your mom's house tomorrow. Right after mah booty call!

Op Max.... I thought you couldn't get any worse. Any lower. How wrong I was.

The ad hominem-- we're soaking in it. Due to you! Nice distraction maneuver, by the way, but I won't be taken on a tangent to re-beat you and the rest of the Red by re: Gore and Carson.

Nor will I believe that fellow readers of these letters are too damn lazy to go back two pages and read what I actuallly wrote, so I have no fear that your droopy little attempts to spin my words will find fertile ground.

You deniers and yer sunspots. The link between solar sunspot activity is a well understood mechanism in the short term. In fact, it is so well understood that most people realize that solar activity has been pretty steady since the 60s, and that the eleven year sunspot cycle has the effect you'd expect-- if anthropogenic climate change is true.

Nice way to fall on your sword there.

I have, perhaps, failed to make the CO2 lag situation simple enough for you. That said, your lack of understanding of the role that CO2 plays in climate does not mean that, in fact, CO2 has no role in the climate. Your ignorance, while understandable, is still ignorance.

On the one hand you claim that oceans will absorb the CO2 for us (which, by the way, implies that CO2 has a role in climate change), but then you turn around and claim that warm oceans will not absorb CO2. Have it both ways much? Plus, you know, the phytoplankton and all that that you just skipped.

Again with the numbers of deniers vs. numbers of people writing the report. It was stupid the first time you said it, and hasn't gotten any smarter since.

The fact you can't grasp the nomenclature of different branches of science does not mean that different branches of science do not have particular nomenclature. "Theory" has a lot more weight than you feel comfortable admitting. Oh wait, you do admit it by citing to laws from... wait for it... physics!