At the moment, they think Ron Paul will save them, perhaps because he's as ignorant and dyspeptic as they are.

Or perhaps not. Ignorant compared to whom, the people who voted for the Dems in 06 and expected the war to end, expected impeachment, or expected change? LOL. That smacks of ignorance to me, since it was obvious to anyone who isn't a partisan True Believer that none of those things were going to happen, and that it would be business as usual. But tell me, how do you define "ignorant"?

I doubt that many of them will vote -- not, at least, for Ron Paul.

Do you doubt they will vote because you are assuming they are like the rest of the US population? You wish. And just who are they going to vote for? You think that his supporters are registering as Republicans, canvasing, donating, and dedicating their time to him to not show up to the primary? Why? Because you say so? Perhaps they are lazy, like the general population, and expect someone else to go and vote in the primary for them? Just like they expect people to donate money to the candidate for them, volunteer for them, and get their man recognized and elected for them. That is how 99% of the people in the country behave, and they will have an awakening when Paul supporters swarm the primaries and caucuses.

Still, even if they don't eventually turn into the crowd hysterically cheering some new Hitler on to his chosen world cataclysm, they're far too disaffected at this point to help anyone approach the real disasters that will soon be upon us.

And you end your rant by validating Goodwin's Law. Well done, and welcome to the Internets. I guess we need Hillary Clinton or some other career bureaucrat, with their "neat ideas" and gaggle of career bureaucrat advisors, to save us from these cataclysms?

You mean the "not being an establishment pundit who questions party leadership" disease? It's catching on.

Listen to you talk shit and make up stuff about RP and his supporters?

Impeach Bush and Cheney and put Pelosi in charge, just so we can watch her waffle on Iraq and Iran, and show everyone what a dog and pony show the Establishment is. The agenda of the hawks that own Pelosi, and that GG described in his last piece, takes priority, and it would be hilarious to watch her squirm since she will be in the spotlight, not like those months back when she tried to scrub the Iran language in the shadows, after AIPAC made her cry.

Who is Rori Paul?

Of course.

Sorry to interrupt, please continue bashing the War Party.

Divide and Conquer, LWM. Every time I see you focus on accusing those you disagree with as being bigots and "haters" of some sort the more you show me how bigoted you really are.

The point was that it is no wonder Pelosi said impeachment was off the table, because if Bush AND Cheney DID get impeached, she would be put in the spotlight and the Dems that she panders to might pay more attention to the things she does for the War Party, like scrubbing all that peacenik crap from bills. They all feed from the same trough.

In the 2003 re-imaging of Battlestar Galactica The Secretary of Education becomes the President and she seems to be doing just fine. In fact, she is serving a second term.

My example is valid.

The State can just ask the Fed to "lower interest rates" and fund the elections through inflation. It would be easy to do since we have all of this experience maintaining the empire using the same methods.

I accounted for the fact that it is a mini-series when I said my example was valid...

I respect your passion, but lose the victim complex. It's become tiresome for everyone in America who isn't a diehard Lefty.

Fixed that for you.

What's the deal Glenn? Aren't the Democrats the "good guys" in lefty land? Where the glass is always half full and Utopia is always just around the corner but never reachable because of the evil marketplace. You wrote mean stuff about Democrats, I never knew you were such a racist.

Why are you flying commercial? You should see if the CIA has any spots on their Torture jets. You might be a little uncomfortable while you are in the air but at least you won't be getting felt up by the TSA and you'd probably have a good chance at scoring some yay off of one the spooks:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/12/19210/608/933/420107

CIA AIR: S&M, blow, and no TSA all the way to Egypt, sounds like it could be competitive with the elites.

say hello to Gary Webb for meh.

Don't forget about neocon-come-lately Lieberman, he is endorsing McCain tomorrow. The hawks are getting desperate, but McCain was finished before he started. He will fail in Iowa, disappoint in NH, and quit. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. They will do whatever it takes to keep the bees and the three trillion dollar honey pot.

This just in... Ron Paul has raised over 16M this quarter, beating his Q4 goal of 12M by 4M with 5 hours to go, and has already broken his one day record of 4.3M with over 30k donors. He is going raise more money than any other Republican in the 4th quarter.

Oh wait, the war party and the establishment are endorsing McCain, that is the big, real, serious news today....

Yay War Party. The only candidate that has a plan involving peace raises millions and gets shunned, while a so-called maverick candidate hawk that wants to prolong the mass murder for the establishment gets coverage. What a sham. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.