Listening to Laura Ingraham try to weasel any defence of harsh interrogation practices while Matthew Alexander categorically put the whole notion to rest ON HER SHOW, I couldn't help notice the only thing she could come up with was the enemy combatant charge. Isn't this what the whole system is teetering on? Didn't they come up with that status profile to evade the IRC and their lists of prisoners? As long as there is this no man's land of a category for the worst of the worst then no one will be held accountable for this uber draconian behaviour on behalf of our so called civilised society. The points Matthew Alexander kept sticking back to Laura was ALL of the interrogations he administered were the Ticking Time Bomb scenarios. ALL OF THEM. AND, the Legacy of the actual torture done at Abu Ghrab and Guantanamo were the number one recruiting tools and subsequent number one cause of death for American soldiers. Treating violence with violence just makes a few folks feel good and does more harm in the long run. What the fuck is so hard about that to understand?

Why does it matter that the "Left", what ever that implies, or anyone or any group happens to care about accountability? And why should they should be instantly stifled and subsequently labelled in Scarlet letter fashion as dangerous or obstructionist. Yeah, I believe everything my government does with my tax dollars to be in mine and my family's best safety issue. I just wish they would call me the next time they go for Hookers, I know a great place in Martinsburg.....

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cut and paste if necessary: http://harpers.org/archive/2008/12/hbc-90003966

How the GOP and their media apparatchik lie, screw anybody to stay in power and then when they're out of power they are somehow reborn into this loyal all knowing opposition phenom that will safe guard the country from the disease of Liberalism.

GG:"Despite that, they had been imprisoned in Guantanamo for six years and were subjected to barbaric treatment that drove several of them close to insanity."

I'm sure you realize how many people were very happy with that treatment for these detainees and would want the same for others in the future. And the supporters of this treatment also can certainly go to sleep at night without giving it another thought.

The remote idea that one day that could be them, or that the President is somehow breaking the law in dealing with these worst of the worst, or that we should adhere to actual Laws WE WROTE after Nuremberg is in another time, in another galaxy.

It's back to the John Mitchell quote: " If your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about"

Look at Karl Rove's latest prediction, Guantanamo will still be open in a year.

This truly defines the Right. They have counted on this stone headed loyalty, along with zero accountability and uber secrecy thrown in for good measure, to keep them in power and set up the opposition with a little blackmail along the way. You either are with US or the terrists. Plain and simple.

People don't ever think that one day that could be them on the other end of this big ole Judge Roy Bean lawless stick of justice.

Hume's Ghost is dead on. The CAP has been patiently churning its meat grinding policy gears for 8 years and now it's the time to deliver. Question, who just happens to be the new policy director for the new administration? Melody Barnes, the number 2 person at the CAP. No surprise on this end. This TD tax debacle will soon be just another case of business as usual, you know just like Halliburton and its single contractor supplier status. Mr. D will soon join the ranks of our new Treasury sec, an exception to all of our normal expectations of our public servants sold as the only people able to handle the job. Hand me the mustard.

"This is the audacity of audacity."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/daschle_is_indefensible.html

What a pathetic industry. The legal profession, constantly mocking it's own high and mighty standards day in and day out with well seasoned platitiudes and constant denial of their own criminal behavior. The rule of law, yeah right. What a total crock of shit led by self serving ass lickers. Alberto Gonzales still practices law doesn't he? Face it we have a fucking King.

Might it be about the disconnect?

Might it be about our Execptional class?

Can't wait.

When the jack boot is on YOUR neck, you want to the new thugs to play fair and forget.

For some reason I think of Tom Delay.

Just what information since inauguration day that the Obama administration has been shown. Names of individuals, countries, allied governments that we have been digging up all sorts of economic and military data on. The way Jay Rockefeller succumbed to Richard Cheney's will so quickly has always made me think they were blackmailed with info they couldn't divulge based on it's content, regardless of the way it was captured.

Protecting the secrecy of the methods and the methods of secrecy were just a ruse to keep the uber valuable, while it's a secret, info from getting out. It's about the content not the delivery for me.