I think you misunderstood me. I didn't say that a person can't be from a humble background and go on to make a lot of money as an adult. I said that in the "need-blind" admissions office of an elite school, there are plenty of indications on a high school student's application about his/her family's socioeconomic status.

I did misunderstand you. LikeLife and Bluderdog had more than one post, and I thought you were referring to something else.

I agree with your other parts on admission.

And yeah, Warren Buffet has more money than God but still lives very modestly, but he's sort of the exception that proves the rule.

Yes, it's the exception to the rule, but it happens more often than you might think. Many very wealthy people who are truly comfortable with money live rather modestly.

You're right--they don't have to outright ask about income to get a pretty good idea who's well-off and who isn't. If you're from Nowhere, Indiana, and you went to public junior high and high school, and from the age of 15 onwards you worked at pretty low-paying, non-prestigious jobs (though by no means worthless or unchallenging--I learned more useful stuff on the job at the nursing home and the radio station than I did in high school), and you didn't have cool internships and summer programs and highly competitive sports leagues, and your foreign language experience was regular old Spanish classes, and your music experience was playing in a marching band that was in local parades and football games but did not compete with other bands for competition's sake...you're probably NOT from a family making $100K a year.

I know dozens of people who match that exact description, from nowhere small towns, who went to public school, and make well over $100,000 per year.

A friend of mine is an accountant in Ohio, his sister is a bus driver, his family was very poor. He makes over $350,000 per year.

Being from modest means doesn't mean you can be wealthy, and it is seriously hard to tell how much money someone has by how they grew up, and often even how they live.

Some exceedingly wealthy (over $100 million in assets) have lives that outwardly appear very middle class.

I meant REAL culture.

Talk about deeming. You don't get to chose what is and what is not culture. You don't like rap or modern music, the vast majority of people disagree with you.

Not consumer-disposable stuff. You're right, that's all we're sold, beacuse again, it's easier to sell one thing to masses you've kept stupid.

People aren't stupid because they won't buy your goods. They have a different taste in music.

It's obvious you consider yourself so above everyone else. You view the masses as stupid, you think yourself superior because you have a degree in a economically useless field.

It's not a lack of education that prevents people from buying your music, it's that they don't like it. I know that rejection hurts, but it's the truth.

If people liked your music, they'd buy it. They don't, because to them it's not worth the money.