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Thursday, June 7, 2007 12:00 AM

"Are We Rome?"

Hollowed out by arrogance, corruption and a bloated military, the greatest empire the world has ever known fell. Is America doomed to follow in its footsteps?

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  • Thursday, June 7, 2007 04:02 AM

    No, but we have a Caesar.

    Whatever happens in America in the next two years has

    nothing to do with Rome. These speculations are, really,

    a laymans parlour game (which on other occasions gave us

    "The Rapture" and "The Iraqis will-greet-us with flowers")

    historians don't mess with this stuff. Hitler was not funny,

    nor was Stalin, nor is deathbed bankrupcy.

    Regarding the question implied throughout : Que sera

    domani ? (the parlour game hook), --If the US is run by

    a bunch of jerks next year, we will be worse off than now.

    If run by bigger jerks than now, we will be driven deeper

    into the ditch. Period. Rome is irrelevant, except in one aspect:

    ".......policy prescriptions based on the Roman historian Livy's injunction hat: what makes a society strong is the well-being of its people -- basic justice......." (from the article)

    Basic justice ? --Economic justice? Habeas Corpus? NOLA?

    We burned all the safety nets, offshored everything but

    big macs and Nascar, causing 9 social layers of Rustbelt from

    C programming in SF, on down to widget stampers in

    Ohio. Look ma, No Net: -and no extended benifits, and

    no retraining allowance and no health care, and no....food.

    So the mullas in Iran, and the preachers in the US

    gathered up these grapes of wrath from the disposessed,

    and made Jihad, and Armaggedon. No

    Bolshevism or NationalSocialism, but the result is

    the same; Deprivation, then Screwyou, we'll bring

    it All down......

    Livy's view...(above).....: War reparations during the

    Depression destroyed Germany's economy and

    middle class (as ours is being destroyed) Destroyed

    to the point of insanity.. (which followed).

    re 'que sera domani?':

    --You take a stack of regular investment grade paper,

    and mix it with some B and C stuff, --then with some real

    stinkers: SubPrime mortgages, then SubSubPrime, ..then

    ..yeah, there is no bottom to this.....in the biz its called

    toxic waste: you dont recycle this stuff, you call the environment

    people. You keep on slicin' and dicin' and leveraging till,

    like ratshit in peanut butter, no one will taste anything bad or

    get reportably sick. Pension funds love it. There is 20-30 TRILLION

    of it out there. Nobody knows the ingredients.

    So it will collapse, and Herbert Hoover will say that the

    economy is strong, and Franklin D will have to deal with

    the grapes. Bigger jerks did not exist in '29.

    --But It could save the Constitution.....It did for FDR/USA.

    Argonne

    (CaVaC?)

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