We all loathe something. For me, I don't much like it when people talk crap about Arabs. As you can imagine, being an Arab-American for the past 8 years, as I have been, has made being angry about that a full time job. I've learned not to waste time yelling at people--in cyber or meat-space. Not because its wrong. It just doesn't get me anywhere, except fuming and red-faced. Also, I feel that I have a unique position to change people's view if I can get them to listen to me long enough..generally, that means not making them feel like they have to put their defensives up. Not that I would tell someone what to do on their blogging territory, and I'm sure I will get flamed now for "telling people what to do" and "being nosy" (as if telling people to shut up because they're stupid is not telling people what to do). Its just an observation and a suggestion

with 58 pages worth of posts, just about the only thing that hasn't been covered is the morality of sex with high-priced extra-dimensional string-theoried prostitutes.

Now if only Obama or Clinton actually had any plans to withdraw troops in the foreseeable future.

...a 1,000 pages of posts debating the oh-so-timely topic of prostitution was quite enough...

"There's a strong body of consensus" from some dood who just posted...

Whenever I see polling data like that, my first instinct is not to see a disconnect, its to undermine the value of polling.

I wish it was; there were a lot of issues I had wanted to see discussed, fer instance, when such a thing happens, all things being equal and no moral opprobrium accruing, just what does such a governor do? Or, what is the legal status of the transactions made by Spitzer? Was any of it illegal or unethical, or is the definition getting bled on by the prostitution thing? Qui Bono? This doesn't hurt democrats as much as it hurts Clinton..or am I wrong?

But the most of the posting revolved around moral issues on prostitution. Alright at a bar, but better things to talk about on a blog, wot?

That makes perfect sense. When you add the numbers, the people who don't want to get out of Iraq are voting for McCain... That'll teach me to read more carefully.

"I've seen similar assertions to the effect that if we withdraw our enemies will celibrate."

Did you mean "celibate"?

Its a bit of a bait and swithc, I suppose. I didn't have time to read the article carefully, but I am left with the vague feeling that I should think that McCain will get support for his stance on the war, at the expense of Clint-Obama, despite the fact that the majority of people want us out as quickly as possible. This is pretty standard type of reporting. I see this a lot in the New York Times, where insiders and sources claim something based loosely (and often speciously) on data, contested in the last paragraph by opposition views.

You are quite good at taking comments out of context. I was very clear in all my posts that the other issues were the ones I would prefer to talk about, and that any person who really wanted to the get to the bottom of the issue should prefer. After 1,000, posts indeed, all focused only on the moral issue, there was nothing left to talk about...'

But please feel free to continue on whatever personal vendetta you've decided to direct at me. So far your opinion hasn't seemed very well informed when it comes to what I've said.

I would have preferred to have been characterized as wearing banana colored pajamas.

I'm actually posting on page one!

Er, but, I don't actually have anything to say about Glen's latest post. Except, Bohner is an IDIOT!

You misunderstood my intentions. I still do want to talk about Spitzer. I'm very curious as to the legality of what's going on. But judging from the 1,000 posts directed only at the topic of the moral relativity of prostitution, that's all people here want to discuss.

At the risk of sounding like its all about me (like anyone who wants to change things) I think it would be a better, saner world, if people who want to bait people did it in person and not on posting sites where serious issues that affect our lives are discussed. When you screw with a stranger in the real world, you have to directly take the repurcussions and it makes us all more honest.

Are you allowed to swear like that here?...Have I been writing all of my f$#@k's like this for no reason?

I too have always suspected Lucy. :/

This issue came up before viz voting for the ammendments but not voting for the bill...my personal feeling was that this was political cowardice, to have a face to show to the progressive crowd, and another to show the less liberal audiences...was there any other viable reason. I can't think of any, but I am curious.

So that's what happened to your balls. snap.(you had that one coming)

That sounds impossible.

I don't think I was asking that, but in retrospect, my question came out a little garbled anyway, but this is a good list to have.,..

So what's the deal here? Is the secret session a way to run the legislation off the rails? Or is it just a time waster?

Well, I did ask. If you'd like to call me dumb for asking, feel free. But yes, that was my question, please spell them out...

I liked that one.

When the Republicans do it, its called liberty-meth.

"is a vast fly-ridden and highly stinkified fartification upon these sacred rules."

Nice.