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Monday, June 2, 2008 01:50 PM

bad editing

democratic party of course...although demographic party might not be a bad description. Why don't these typos seem apparent while typing them?

Monday, June 2, 2008 02:25 PM

kstone

Hate to pile on here but you say you have to go with polling "at the time" rather than current 50/50 estimates. I thought the whole issue was the will of the voters and electability and all that. That would make it a wash, right? To have the rules committee divvy them up 50/50 right? Or is yet another case of cherrypicking the votes you wish to count, the states you wish to count, the elections you wish to count, and the demographics you wish to count?

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 03:52 PM

Mizmoon's math

I have simpler and shorter math: If she "won the popular vote by a landslide", she would be the candidate. That's how elections work.

This string cracks me up. I was excoriated a few months ago when I suggested that Clinton might end up Obama's VP. "She would never lower herself to that!" "That would be an insult!" "She'll form a third party first!"

Now all you guys are insisting it is her right because of the "18 million" (which includes people who will vote democrat anyways, republicans who voted for Clinton because they were told to, and racists who voted for Clinton because the idea of a mixed race president was an abomination to them). It isn't her right anymore than it would be Al Gore's demanding the presidential slot since, after all, he got way more than 18 million votes in 2000, eh?

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 05:55 PM

Karen says:

We should just forget the whole primary thing and have every democrat in the country mail in their vote tomorrow. By Friday we should count them up and the one with the most votes is the nominee. No caucus wierdness, no disqualified elections. Everyone votes tomorrow and highest number wins!

If that isn't what you want, what exactly do you want? I mean besides Clinton as the nominee despite the stated rules of the DNC (as developed by Bill Clinton and Harold Ickes). This was set up years in advance. There will be one winner and MORE THAN ONE LOSER. Imagine how Biden, Edwards and the others must feel. If only they had hung in there...

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 08:45 PM
Original article: Obama declares victory

Pleasantly surprised.

Great speech but anytime Obama shows graciousness and generosity towards HRC, the usual high volume suspects on Salon accuse him of being arrogant. Of course in the seconds it took to finish this note, several may have chimed in.

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 08:59 PM
Original article: Clinton wins!

myiq

That's stunning news. Exactly how many delegates do the media have in denver? Is it really enough to put obama over the top? Shameful. Shameful.

HRC was the wild favorite going into this (remember the inevitability of Clinton v. Giuliani?). She picked lousy advisors, took lousy advice, and ran a lousy campaign. She only caught up a bit by going dirty. And you think the republicans would have let her get away with that? Wonder how they would use the Gerson piece?

If she had won, we would have seen bosnia sniper fire 24/7 in republican ads. As it is we will see "Obama hasn't crossed the CINC threshold" 24/7 and any person who will be the star of a republican attack ad has no business being the VP on the ticket.

Tuesday, June 3, 2008 09:08 PM

sgansnose

I don't think HRC wants superdelegates to vote along the lines of their states because that might mean she would lose.

They are supposed to be looking out for the good of the party. And they are.

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 06:02 AM

beachpoet

Works for me. BHO the nominee (according to delegate math) no convention and lets move on to beat republicans. Do you think HRC will go for it?

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 06:09 AM

So I go to Hillaryclinton.com

My message to HRH starts with a mandatory ā€œI’m with you Hillary, and I am proud of everything we are fighting for.ā€

I then was able to personalize the above message. I chose to ask her to gracefully concede so we can stop spending necessary funds fighting each other. I pressed send and it immediately loaded up the donation page.

This is completely shameless. I'll ask my kids to sell their bikes and video games for her, I guess.

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 09:24 AM

mandate?

I know of no one in the obama campaign who has declared a "mandate" much less Obama himself. Stop projecting please.

Obama speaks of himself as an imperfect candidate and not some "vessel of destiny". Again, stop projecting.

When he is gracious, he is called arrogant. When he is tough, he is called a bully. When he says nothing at all, he is an empty suit. Face it. There is nothing he did nor can ever do to get the support of many the HRH uber-zealots which is why the whole idea that Clinton has "18 million votes to deliver" is nonsense. The true democrats will vote for Obama anyway. The Operation Chaos republicans laugh at their inclusion in the number. The "anyone but the black guy" were happy to vote for clinton over obama in a primary but are already putting their McCain bumper stickers on (and would have anyway).

This race is over. Obama needs a VP to compliment the ticket and someone he can both trust and work with. By this time next week, the wringing of hands will have ceased and HRC, having overplayed her hand in a big way, will be drifting towards irrelevance.

Wednesday, June 4, 2008 07:54 PM
Original article: Sitting shiva with Hillary

lolcait

You still here? Will you still be playing the same tune when HRH tells you cease and desist this weekend?

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