"On the other hand, he says, the Book of Genesis is true 'from the first word to the last.'"

By we, I mean Orthodox Jews.

We also hold by the Big Bang. How can that be? Well, there's a companion to the Written Torah called the Oral Tradition (a.k.a, then Oral Torah), which explains and elucidates the Written Torah.

The Written Torah can also be thought of as a memory aid for the Oral Tradition. We hold that they are two sides of the same coin, inseparable. It's clear from there that B'reishis (Genesis) fits in perfectly with the Big Bang.

Why are people who don't know the Hebrew alphabet, who couldn't tell the 10 Commandments from instructions on how to change a tire in Hebrew, who never even have heard of the Oral Tradition, why are they taken seriously?

Remember, if you read the Bible from left to right, you are reading it backwards.

not Ham, who was the son of Noach, not Noah (ch = the German ch).

FYI.

make for worse sex?

is quite different. Rome was held to be Edom, i.e. Esau, Jacob's evil brother. It destroyed the Second Temple and massacred untold numbers of Jews. It was probably the standard of evil until Hitler.

The U.S., on the other hand, is known as haMalchus shel Chesed, the Kingdom of Kindness. Today the US is known as one of the greatest centers of Torah in history.

To whom? Not to me. It just seems like a given, but she was definitely not a looker (to me, anyways).

I wonder what the definition of "fluent" is. First of all, Arabic is really several languages, all written with the same script (like Chinese). Do they know Iraqi, as opposed to Egyptian (the standard "dialect" taught) or Classical Arabic (which would be like learning Biblical Hebrew to speak to Israelis).

and his father before him and so on, I entered the Covenant of Abraham when I was 8 days old. Thank G_d.

All you anti-circ lunatics, read up on the history of Chanukah.

in they tried to get rid of Judaism by banning circumcision, among other things. After the oppressors were removed via guerilla war, a 30 year civil war followed and the Orthodox defeated the Reform.

Those "reasonable" Greeks logically derived that they should sacrifice children (see Oedipus Rex). I'll stick with my ritual genital mutilation, thank you very much.

Funny how tolerant the Left can be. It's hard to eat your own cooking.

Again anti-circ people, Jews and Muslims (any others?) are going to circumcise our boys, we'll make parties and be joyous, and if you don't like it, you can fuck yourselves.

And if you outlaw it, we'll go underground, just like in the good ole USSR.

Get over it. Find something else to obsess over.

Join the crowd Vicky. Achashverosh, Titus, Stalin, all tried to get rid of Bris Milah. Who's still around, going strong?

Only an idiot would seriously compare male and female circumcision in other than the most superficial terms.

Finally, Vicky, I doubt that you could tell me the Hebrew Alphabet, let alone tell the difference between the First Commandment and how to change a tire in Hebrew. You don't know the Bible at all, you have no idea what's in it.

The day we go around circumcising non-Jews against their wills, then you'll have a legitimate complaint. Till then, shut the fuck up.

with me on this issue. You're right anonymous. There's no point in being anti-circ--it's going to continue whether you want it to or not. If it makes you feel alive to stoke that righteous indignation, if that frisson of anger gives you that tingly feeling that you imagine was cut off with my foreskin, then keep on keeping on I guess. But don't you want to spend your life pursuing something with an iota of a possibility of success?

I'm left wing because I want to be left alone to follow my lifestyle, and I don't want to force my lifestyle on others. It distresses me to see how the left can be the other side of the same coin as the right, which the anti-circ people clearly demonstrate. You see, if you ban male circumcision, then you ban Judaism. Any "Judaism" that claims male circumcision is not mandatory is not valid Judaism. That's just the way it is.

Oh, and Eshu, tateleh, if you're mother is Jewish, then you're Jewish according to Jewish Law, just like the Archbishop of France. There's no undo. Tough. Your opinions don't matter.

Finally, a correction. It was Antiochus who tried to outlaw Bris Milah, not Achashveros. Achashveros was the Persian King who tried to kill us all.

I expect that they will continue to do so, regardless of any law, even though 13 is below the age of consent.

Read my last post carefully. I was very careful to separate out "Jew" from "Judaism". I could fill a book detailing that statement, but this is not the place.

There's so much evil in the world, but you schmucks decide to concentrate your energy on a tiny piece of skin that nobody sane misses. To top it off, you will never succeed despite your constant self-assurances. Finally, while doing so, you place yourselves in the company of some of the worst tyrants the world has ever known.

You people are pathetic.