The idea that white people are obliged to prostrate themselves for their historical sins before the self appointed guardians of racial sensitivity

That's hilarious. I haven't seen any white people doing deep-knee-bends in my neighborhood, but maybe I'm just not moving in the right circles.

Personally, I love when someone reminds me that there are people out there so clueless as to suggest that whites are too guilty about the racial sins of the past...

And Aychy... you're like Rudy Giuliani talking 9/11 with the drug war shit. I really think we could be talking about, I don't know, horse breeding or something and you'd still find a way to work in a reference to the War on (Some) Drugs.

Ah well, they mocked Cassandra too...

A racist? "Necesarily?" No. Kind of an asshole, but not necessarily a racist. I don't know you, and in all likelihood will never get to know you since you post anonymously. I can't say if you're a racist or not, but you're not a real attentive reader. That much I can tell.

You seem to think the thing that Clinton is being called to task for is mentioning Obama is black, or that he can't win, or that he (Clinton) is racist. That's not it, and I hope you can forgive me for being a little exasperated as we're going on sixtywhatever pages of comments, and it keeps getting distorted over and over and over again.

Bill Clinton seems, at least to some of us, to be framing Obama as a can't-win, not-serious, minority candidate along the lines of Jesse Jackson, who never came remotely close to transcending race. Leave aside for the moment whatever you may or may not feel about politics with the gloves off, the need to take back the White House from Darth Cheney and his henchmen, any of that. The point that I took most strongly from Glenn's post was this:

If a Republican dismissed Obama by comparing him to Jesse Jackson, would you not agree that it would unleash a storm of outrage from the left? And if it's wrong, why isn't it wrong regardless of who does it?

Please, go play with your straw man somewhere else. Yeah, the definition of "racism" really is "not saying what I want them to way the way I want them to way it". Real trenchant analysis there, buddy.

And please, make friends with the comma key. It's just to the right of the M on your keyboard.

kthxbai

Now buzz off.

Your mom wants to use the computer.

WTF, Mr.Murder?

I was gonna beat that guy up for disrespecting you... only he kind of beat himself up on that last post.

I've fantasised for some time about a UT party, though it seems like the "regulars" are fairly well dispersed: WT I know is in AZ, and I have strong suspicions that 'bop is somewhere in the wilds of New England...

Maybe the right place for such a meeting is indeed Rio.

;-)

I blew right past that RMP... the word reunione in Italian means meeting and as I spent the weekend translating, somehow it all made sense.

I love Austin but my girl is texaphobic. Still, a great opportunity!

My, how the telecom industry has changed since I was a lad...

My girlfriend gets all her news from Democracy Now. I'm not a big fan of single-sourcing your news, regardless of the source, but she's a working student, and at least the most important issues get covered.

I read to her from the Economist for the sake of balance ;-)

Apparently, this has been investigated for some time:

http://www.yaleherald.com/article.php?Article=2523

Each class attempts to outdo its predecessor in the acquisition of valuables. In addition to Geronimo's skull, the Bonesmen's tomb is rumored to contain the skull of Pancho Villa and Adolf Hitler's silverware.

Charming, aren't they, the kids of our "ruling class?"

Warrantless wiretapping at will!

An Attorney General who will "never" give an opinion on torture!

Racists on the Circuit Court!

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb bombing Iran!

Down with MoveOn.org!

No to "Oprima 2 para Español!"

Military Commissions for anyone we think is a Terrorist!

A Permanent Conservative Majority on the Supreme Court:

War in Iraq 4-eva!

It's true... we've gotten everything we ever wanted!

Gotta sing, gotta dance!

"We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America."

Except, of course, Iraq was not a "Muslim" nation before 2003, it was a secular nation. Saddam's Iraq, for all its Ba'ath despotism, tribal misogyny and narrowness, guaranteed equal rights in its consitution and was one of the first countries to ratify the Convention on Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women.

Not, obviously, that it was some kind of feminist utopia... but neither was it, say, Sa'udi Arabia.

sit on the fence and see both sides of the coin as extremist and wrong.

Everyone's wrong but you, eh? Isn't that, kind of, the position you criticise in, what was it, "lefty pinhead meat puppets?"

There's a term for that, you know...

Digby = Coulter?

I'm sorry, I'm so far left that Digby's authoritarianism scares me, but even I can't see the comparison.

Haven't heart either of the naomis publically call for the death of any conservative, but Glenn's the only pwoggie I read with any consistency. I could just be missing it.