Poster Margaret, talk about anything else; use any other argument, but leave this alone. Where did you get the idea that Jackie somehow ginned up nostalgia later? That's cuckoo, and you will lose credibility with anybody who actually remembers or knows.

We had good Presidents for 31 years: FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy. In the 45 years since, we have had mostly disastrous Presidents: Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, W. Bush. Things really were better in the good old days. Caroline is a living link, not just in some symbolic sense.

She is wisest, cleanest candidate. Your chances with Caroline are better than with any other.

Caroline has not been down in the snakepits wrassling with the old political rattlesnakes. Her record is clean. She need not even consider bribes, because she does not need the money.

She personally has been involved in history all her life. She has perspective. I prefer her over almost any old political warhorse (different animal metaphor). I trust her more.

But I have not lived in New York for a long time. It's up to you.

I told you this was going to happen. Please, Salon, get Caroline up into the main line.

Here's the thing about The Secretary of the Interior: Snore! In some other countries the Secretray of the Interior controls the Secret Police, so people care. But in the USA, the Secret Police work for Dick Cheney.

Senators Bobby Kennedy and Hillary Clinton, for example. Caroline definitely is the national USA choice. Is the rest of the USA just "far-upstate New York?" That is how NYC people think of the rest of us, bless their overpaid, overtaxed hearts.

You New Yorkers, go ahead and decide. If you want a good New York Senator, pick somebody. But if you want a national and international star, pick Caroline.

Poster Tinkie Winkie used it. For me, though, "Sweet Caroline" sounds better. I may be older and more idealistic than Tinkie.

This is a Pro Wrasslin'-style problem. Slutty big sister gits it on with little brother's roommate. Snore!

This is not even affecting your life, or you brother's life. It's not like, "I did this, and now Iran may get nuclear weapons." No. It's just, "My brother don't like the fact that I am an embarassingly active sex machine."

Kooky backstory, too. How did it come to pass that you were free to live with your brother and his roommate for two full months? Why did you need to live there? That, maybe, is a more interesting problem.

Why have you put it in late-night War Room, soon to be buried under a dozen inconsequential posts?

Also: Let us not have young smart-ass Salon writers snarking about Caroline and her family. Caroline Kennedy embodies the true spirit of America. Do not dismiss American soul and spirit just because you are trying so hard to be hip that you have no soul or spirit.

The rest of us love Caroline Kennedy, non-New Yorkers, former New Yorkers, once-upon-a-time New Yorkers, never New Yorkers and all the rest.

Her lack of former politics is a great plus. We want somebody without taint. Let's see how she speaks. She is smart. If she can talk, everybody will see that they really wanted Caroline rather than Sarah Palin.

I sincerely want a princess. Compare her to the leathery video game villains such as Beauregard Corker, the people we alraedy have in the US Senate. And, know what?... Caroline Kennedy already knows most of the planet-level movers and shakers on a first-name basis.

Caroline for Senate!

Send shoes to W. Bush. Great idea! Send them now. Wednesday is the last day the Post Office guarantees delivery before Christmas.

Left-wing ideological economics was God-awful failed painful Communism. Right-wing ideological economics is our current global freefall.

Finance is Finance. We need financial and economic expertise. No political theory or ideological theory rules Finance. Recent history proves that. QED

Maybe torture, maybe no... Maybe rain, maybe snow. This looks like a severe butt-kicking, probably by Iraqis. Not good news, but what would he expect?

1. Great throws. I think maybe the guy put something heavy in the shoe-toes, to make them travel straighter.

2. I predict, from now on, whenever Bush speaks anywhere, people will throw shoes. W. Bush's speeches will be sold out. People who want to throw shoes will buy up all the tickets. Scalpers will hang around outside W. Bush's speech venues, offering shoes as well as tickets.

"Who needs a pair in the third row?"

[That = hated NORTH Vietnam for you right-wingers.]

Even Vietnam is bailing out its economy, even though their economy is growing [No! Must be some Salonista propaganda! We STILL ought to nuke 'em!]

http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/business/2008/12/14/D952UE900_as_vietnam_stimulus_plan/index.html

It's time for a USA auto industry loan!

Turn on; tune in; drop out! Try to be Jim Morrison! Die early and get buried in Gay Paree!

Just quit. Poster Dingdong may be right. I did it, but it did not work, but heck! I'm not dead yet, and I'm not famous.

Baloney! Best advice is to stay calm and move forward quietly, and wind up loving your grandchildren, and telling them jokes. This is not an either/or thing. Do not quit your job. (You may lose it soon, anyway, with our crappy Republican economy.)

But still do your art. Then, even if your art is not quite popular, you still will have a happy life. Jim Morrison was not all that great, even though he had a miserable life. Van Gogh was all that great, but he had a truly miserable life.

Now I will shut up for the rest of this thread. Sneak under the radar. Judge yourself in twenty years. For now, stay cool.

Maybe it's not so much Left versus Right, but Sensible versus Extreme Ideological Right. Normal prudence and common sense would have saved us.

Can you imagine if our worse economic worry right now were the stock market only being up four percent?